re: thanks guys - the debate -gyro
Loins seem ok I will research The Rotary in due course.
loins - the lower part of the abdomen just above the external genital organs pubes, pubic region region, area - a part of an animal that has a special function or is supplied by a given artery or nerve; "in the abdominal region" mons, mons pubis, mons veneris - a mound of fatty tissue covering the pubic area in women
