the bubble crew

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    Nicely put by C Joye, I would say this would sum up most so called BULLS (as labelled but only from the bears corner) views on property. It seems the bubble bears are getting in more of a fit lately on these threads. Calm down lads. Love Rorys last line in particular.

    "I think the fact were regarded as bullish is very interesting because it actually says much more about the bears than the bulls. Weve never made any forecasts for double-digit house price growth; weve never made any public pronouncements along the lines that prices would rise very rapidly. Weve just been a figure of balance and levity in the highly polarised and emotive housing debate...

    Because we never bought into the poorly-justified doomsday statements that the likes of Steven Keen were making during the GFC, and because we were quite relentless in arguing that we thought the market would be resilient given the underlying integrity of the demand and supply fundamentals, in contrast to those high-profile folks preaching 40 per cent house price falls, yes, we may have appeared relatively bullish compared with these extreme predictions. But by any independent measure, we werent. And empirically, we were proven right over and over again.

    Weve only ever argued that we think dwelling prices should rise in line with nominal GDP or disposable incomes over the long-run given the current constraints. So I would actually put that as a conservative position. It is not unreasonable to expect the nominal price of a scarce asset to rise broadly alongside purchasing power, all other things being equal.

    In relation to the outlook, our view remains, and weve been saying for four to six months now, that we expect conditions to cool as mortgage rates normalise. Weve probably been a little bit surprised on the upside by the strength of the recovery, but we remain confident in that view.

    In the longer term, the fundamentals are very strong for well-known reasons. Again, the fact that some might claim that were bulls says a lot more about their own extreme positions than ours. Its really quite absurd.

    If you had an equity market strategist claiming that share prices were only going to rise in line with disposable incomes, hed be an unambiguous equity bear, but for some reason if you say the same thing about house prices youre a bull. Go figure.

    As Macquarie's Rory Robertson has said, those that most enthusiastically apply the "bubble" moniker to housing tend to know the least about the market, or are pushing some other agenda.

    http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Clearance-rates-are-surprisingly-strong-pd20100506-574MQ?OpenDocument
 
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