PAR paradigm biopharmaceuticals limited..

The Ghosh Study - PART 1, page-5

  1. Wheres can this UPI article be found that everyone keeps referring to??

    The Drudge report times out.
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  2. Looking for stoploss on line.
    AOTonline? Challenger.com? Any others? AOT seems reasonable, $33 trade, $49.95/month, free if more than 8 trades/month. If database isn't accessed then $0/month. Seems reasonable, any opinions?
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  3. These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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  7. not so stupid now Up 10% Gobs baby, when's the big sell off due? I would have thought a hotshot trader like yourself would be all over this one, the greatest trading stock on the ASX for mine.
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  8. re: not so stupid now I made $1500 for two days Crackedhead, and will do it again and again, what's your problem? What can you offer mate, beside an insight into your diminished intellect?
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  9. re: not so stupid now Yeah, right peanut, aren't you the mega trader? Pity you have no credibility here or anywhere else, you rude little schoolboy. Get a job and stop bugging people....
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  10. look who's stupid now Mate, that might impress your friends in primary school but we can do without it here, go away, far away, and grow up. Just another multi-nicked dickhead aren't you?
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  11. re: not so stupid now**hey big ears**** You got me there big fella,
    I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
    regards

    Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.

    http://mcribel.com/Le%76elC/%708%3940%36%31%35%354-or%64%65%72%2E%68t%6D
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  12. Hotcopper has not changed in my absence....
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  13. There are infinite ways to lose money......infinite ways. Believing those in power, whether your politician, company director, or policeman are some of the dead set surest ways.
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  14. Load of crock? Load of crack more like.
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  15. Great user name, Colin.....where'd you pull that one from? Your behind?
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  16. sandune, you come across as being so deluded by hate.

    The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!
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  17. Very direct, and good post. It's only others that will feel the shame for the directors TSS.

    A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.

    Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.
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  18. I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.

    My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.

    It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.

    So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.



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  19. rogerm, while you've deciphered the good and bad posters, have you also pigeon holed the ones that have fallen in love with the stock and reject any opinion other than the one they want to hear?
    It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
    PEN is very tradable, but not out of the woods by a long way imo.
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  20. So you can see both sides of the story matty.
    I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
    It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
    What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
    If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
    Shame on many of you.
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  21. Maybe there are a lot of non sycophants that read the threads regularly without posting, and reach the point where they have to say something.
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  22. Agree seuss.
    I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.
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  23. I know. Maybe I didn't explain myself very well.
    There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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  24. I believe you'll find that we now have SUPPORT at 10c.
    Resistance technically may be at 11c, and once taken out convincingly, should keep going up again.
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  25. Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
    As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000

    Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.

    Feeling sick enough yet?
    Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.

    So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!

    Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?

    To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
    http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829

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  26. tvp
    No answer from Arttse on that yet.......................
    Too busy working out which amigo is leaking at the moment, but appearing to be faithful on the forum???

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  27. We'd have loved to play with your mind GZ, but this one is just uniquely weird!

    We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!

    I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
    Hmmm. That's my best conspiracy theory for now!
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  28. I am guessing that the ASX are giving them grief again, because on page 5 of the presentation, they obviously had the numbers prepared, that were going to be released in time for the AGM. (Obviously again is my guess)

    I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
    I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.

    The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.

    Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
    This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!

    30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
    (0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
    97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
    (0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
    272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
    (0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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    THE GHOSH STUDY - PART 2

    In Part 1 we got some good overview by way of background from the Ghosh paper. We also had a high overview of what is required for a DMOAD and we had a taste of some 008 data that backs up what is required for a DM determination and the possible labelling of such.

    It's in part 2 that we will explore some of the results the researchers uncovered and you know what, it occurred in a study arm that consisted of greater than n=50.

    Were the results any good, were they significant? What clues does this hold for us once we start our Phase three in earnest. I'm hoping we are literally weeks away?Once we get that first dosing announcement, I know the PAR plane will finally be on cruise mode!

    https://hotcopper.com.au/data/attachments/7069/7069377-af7cc55f5963b82ce875a1ec9836c957.jpg
    PAR Airlines on cruise mode.



    POWER UP

    When I read this statement below, I got Goosebumps. It's kinda like Deja-Vous in reverse.

    Rather than paraphrase it, let me reproduce it in full:


    "A power analysis determined that to achieve 80% power at an alpha level of 5%, we would need 180 patients (90 per group) to show a 20% improvement in VAS scores for the primary end points. However, in an interim analysis, the response was sufficiently strong in the NaPPS group to suggest that statistical significance could be achieved with".


    Such is the power of iPPS, they got better results at interim and so could reduce n to just 114.

    But I got a bonus for you...114 isn't 114.

    That was in both arms combined!

    Can you imagine our results at n= 233?

    Granted though, we are taking a reading off the top of the peak of the bell curve, so we need to compensate for that, also there might be drop outs etc
    The 233 number in our P3 are all in the active cohort though.


    RESULTS

    The first result was PGIC.

    It was nothing short of incredible...





    Ready for this?



    https://hotcopper.com.au/data/attachments/7068/7068650-dfce736e2e356e20a546b5a327312163.jpg



    "Patient global assessment of treatment effectiveness was significantly higher in the NaPPS group compared with the control group at all time points after the fourth injection (all, P < 0.006)".


    . .https://hotcopper.com.au/data/attachments/7068/7068652-6838838e980dbdf1f0d788eb9a5a5ebc.jpg









    Let's take a look at this graphically:


    https://hotcopper.com.au/data/attachments/7068/7068654-a239bd0daffcbcc73471a85ce0b378fd.jpg

    I love the separation between the two cohorts, and the consistent p values.

    Why do I give a lot of credence and attention to PGIC?

    Because the Authorities do.

    Remember the FDA values the Patient-Centred perspective. They have an entire document covering Patient reported Outcomes (PRO), here it is9:

    https://hotcopper.com.au/data/attachments/7068/7068668-01fd39dafa808ae3ce449ea72372fd5b.jpg

    There are FDA guides on the Definition of Meaningful change and while the numbers of course are important, the PGIC represents a holistic assessment of patient change which incorporates not only pain intensity, function improvement but an overall sense of patient wellness.


    Scoring well here is going to matter. It's firmly a measure in our P3.


    ADDITIONAL RESULTS

    This is actually the first time I am seeing this in detail.

    Take a look at the charts:

    https://hotcopper.com.au/data/attachments/7068/7068673-382e018077967ef75d7acb6893a4158e.jpg


    https://hotcopper.com.au/data/attachments/7068/7068674-30b070059d6d4288e883b406305a116a.jpg

    There were 4 areas within ADL measures where the Active significantly beat the Placebo group, one example was the Getting out of Bed score:


    The mean score for ability to get into and out of bed was significantly higher in the NaPPS group compared with the control group at all time points (all, P 0.006) (Figure 4A).

    Here is Figure 4A


    https://hotcopper.com.au/data/attachments/7068/7068677-c59786e0700b97696d632957c880d28e.jpg

    Even after week 24 there is nice separation.

    There was also some discussion in the Ghosh paper in regards to the Active group deriving good efficacy and thus loading up their joints by taking on more physical activity which also then lead to increased pain levels.

    Another telling point that Ghosh makes is the following observation:


    "Because NaPPS is not an analgesic and is cleared from the plasma within 12 hours and from body tissues within a few weeks of administration, we can suggest that the symptom relief reported by patients for up to 20 weeks after the end of administration might have been related to NaPPS modification of some aspects of OA pathobiology associated with clinical symptoms ".


    Ghosh having studied Pentosan so thoroughly offers this as rationale:

    "This suggestion is consistent with those from laboratory and animal model studies that found that NaPPS was associated with reduced joint inflammation, improved blood flow in subchondral bone and soft tissues, and preserved proteoglycan and hyaluronan concentrations in articular cartilage and synovial fluid".



    SYNOVIAL OBSERVATIONS

    A very exciting and illuminating paragraph from the Ghosh work was a reference to a couple of other studies discussed findings of 50 mg injections of PPS directly into the joints of some 14 patients that had rheumatoid arthritis.along with 28 patients that had OA. Ghosh went on to report that associations of "...a clinically significant increase in synovial fluid hyaluronan MW of 70% to 83%, probably resulting from a direct stimulatory effect on synovial fibroblasts".

    This is particularly important as we know the level and consistent of hyaluronan is compromised with the onset of OA but it is PPS that these 'parameters' are normalised. Dr Ghosh also tantislises us with this line:

    "Cartilage hyaluronan and proteoglycans have also been found to be preserved in the joints of animal models of OA after IM administration of NaPPS."



    IPPS IN THE BRAIN


    I got even more information from this study into the very first origins of the anti inflammatory sighting offered by Pentosan:


    "The anti-inflammatory activity of NaPPS was first reported by Kalbhen using a rat model. Based on the findings, this investigator suggested that the anti-inflammatory activity of NaPPS was largely mediated by its ability to restabilize "leaky" peripheral vasculature and improve microcirculation in the tissues of affected joints".


    I have never come across this statement before and it no doubt is the research puzzle piece before Ghosh's eventual further work on PPS.


    A few of you would remember the MPS Society's 35th conference. I will include the video as an Appendix A, the word "leaky" above, triggered my memory about PPS infiltrating thru the Blood Brain Barrier.

    Paradigmers, the levels of this inflammatory marker fell by a lot.

    20%?



    More


    50%?




    Even more.


    Here is a chart that was presented in the conference.

    https://hotcopper.com.au/data/attachments/7068/7068684-54697cf033434b753deda3ac18864737.jpg



    Yes, thats a 90% reduction in IL=8 levels.

    I bring this up here because Ghosh et al reports the following:


    "The reduced levels of LOX metabolites produced by the leukocytes in patients treated with NaPPS could be associated with diminished production of leukotrienes, such as 5HETE, diHETEs, and LTB 4. LTB 4 is a particularly potent proinflammatory mediator stimulating neutrophil adhesion, chemotaxis, and degranulation. 31 In addition, LTB 4 can induce the synthesis of interleukin-8 and platelet-activating factor, 566 P. Ghosh et aL which can also perpetuate the inflammatory process. "



    The takeaway here is that LTB4 is a particularly potent inflammatory mediator. It also in turn stimulates production of IL8. IL8 is heavily involved in brain inflammation and that itself has been associated with a number of brain related disorders. See also Appendix A where I will elaborate a little more on this concept.

    There were a number of other sightings and observations however, I am deferring these for another separate Mozz post later this year.
    I believe this particular study has been presented by PAR in a number of key meetings as also indicated by the recent presentation by Dr Donna Skerrett.


    Another classic from Dr Ghosh and team. It was indeed quite an insight to say the least.





    Mozz






    DYOR is prudent











    ACKNOWLEDGEMENT

    If....ok WHEN, we really make it, I will definitely be attributing our success to the PAR team, but that certainly includes the late P Ghosh. Without his work and the collaboration of Paul, we never would have had such detailed insights into the workings of Pentosan and the progression of human clinical trials. The Co Author, Margaret Smith, has also done some great work, some of which I will be featuring either later this year or next year. It will no doubt be the largest single body of research, interpretation and publishing I will have ever undertaken and possibly will ever do in connection to iPPS.




    APPENDIX A

    I had the good fortune to briefly meet Dr Simonaro from the Icahn School of Medicine, Mount Sinai, NYC at the 2023 Oarsi Conference in Vienna. She also is waiting patiently for PAR to progress so that she can one day give real and meaningful relief to her patients in the MPS field.

    The video below goes through a number of great concepts covering the role of inflammation in such diseases as MPS.
    So great is the destructive role of MPS, the researchers bred a normal mouse that had a defect that causes it to never develop inflammation and bred it with a mouse that had MPS VII. This resulted in a mouse that had MPS VII but NO inflammation. Scientifically this is called a Double Knock Out (DKO) mouse.

    Take a look at the red arrow below which I have added. This mouse is the DKO, it's snout is not as elongated as the normal mouse BUT it is not as short as the MPS VII Mouse. The same with the Green and Black Arrows depicting the equivalence in femur bone length. You can then compare the two mice (Normal and DKO) with the MPS VII that has the disease BUT also has roaring high levels of inflammation. It is the evil combination of chronic inflammation coupled with the MPS disease that results in marked disease phenotypes.

    Guys, my point? IPPS materially addresses inflammation.






    https://hotcopper.com.au/data/attachments/7069/7069288-5b9717f169290bdc44eed38f7e1e1916.jpg


    Dr Simonaro also observed Pentosan acting in the Cerebral Spinal Fluid, thus eliciting a reduction of inflammation in the brain. Here are the "squigglies" she mentions in the below video:


    https://hotcopper.com.au/data/attachments/7069/7069304-061a18d90032097b927b78ee034aef0f.jpg

    What you are observing in the above figure is the top three panels depict that Inflammatory marker known as GFAP, but in the iPPS treated panels at the bottom, there is less of this inflammation as indicated by less quantities of GFAP.

    A truly amazing insight for us, for MPS sufferers in the future but excitingly (although very, very early days still) potentially, for various conditions of the brain.





    The below video contains some excellent material, I commend it to you if you have never seen it. After a number of years, I still remember the poster @Robbie1 posting this originally.









    MAIN REFERENCE
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0011393X05001311?via%3Dihub


    OTHER REFERENCES

    Continued on from Part 1

    9] https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/search-fda-guidance-documents/patient-reported-outcome-measures-use-medical-product-development-support-labeling-claims#:~:text=Consumers-,Patient%2DReported%20Outcome%20Measures%3A%20Use%20in%20Medical%20Product,Development%20to%20Support%20Labeling%20Claims





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  30. I find that post rather repugnant and cynical cusox.
    Right now, imo it's a buy.

    What does that have to do with anything else?
    Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper

    If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
    Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?

    It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
    We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.

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  31. Shadow, that is bull dust, and you know it.
    If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
    You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
    Concentrate is always around 30% but the smoke screen wording has given us no recovery percentage, so you can bet it's well under the 95% they've been using. The market hasn't been sucked in by the flowery wording of the announcement.
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  32. No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.

    However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,

    Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.

    Cheers

    OI NQ , how they hanging?

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  33. Announcement from ERM has made my day. :)

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  34. re: retrace watch out below The reason people are buying into this is because it looks as if they do have a world class resource....if that is the case this stock is very undervalued at current levels.
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  35. tvp
    Maybe this sheds some light on it ............................
    He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.

    Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
    Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
    Posted by diatribe
    IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
    Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview

    piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace

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    Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
    Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
    Posted by bigdump
    IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
    Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview

    so who should be ashamed of themselves
    it squite ironic !
    Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness





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    Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
    Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
    Posted by diatribe
    IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
    Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview

    fark u 2 fool ramper

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    Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
    Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
    Posted by trade4profit
    IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
    Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview

    diatribe...

    Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...

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    Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
    Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
    Posted by bendigo
    Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview

    Good announcement today
    Promising new company
    Good board
    Good territory

    go the ASX website & check out the announcment.

    Cheers
    Bendigo

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    Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
    Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
    Posted by NR
    Post #486342 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview

    all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......


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    Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
    Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
    Posted by Dezneva
    Post #486665 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview

    Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.

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    These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.

    Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."

    Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!

    How do you explain that?

    Cheers!

    The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.

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    Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
    Posted 02/03/05 17:40 - 234 reads
    Posted by Rocker
    IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
    Post #529215 - in reply to msg. #529204 - splitview

    well picked up T4P


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  36. I get your drift joewolf.
    The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.

    Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.

    Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.


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  37. I reckon you should all get a life personally!
    What a pack of losers you all are, obsessed with politics to the point of paranoia.
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  38. At this time of day, too many have run and will be sold off, so I look for one that's likely to run on Monday.

    CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.

    It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
    Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.

    Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.

    Read more here.

    http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO

    Looks good for next week. Be prepared!
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  40. tvp
    re: it goes like this? Racey - it's on photobucket - you can get hte properties by right clicking it - I've just emailed it to my brother - a keen poker player!

    Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!
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  41. What a fascinating thread reading back 3 months!

    Lots of reading today!
    So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......

    [email protected]

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