@ppm56 — You’ve presented a lengthy breakdown again, but the original request remains unanswered:
“Show the doctrine of the Trinity from the Bible alone.”Not a theological commentary. Not Catholic tradition. Not an assembled puzzle from verses that speak about the Father, Son, and Spirit — but a
clear teaching from Scripture that defines
three persons in one essence,
co-equal,
co-eternal, and
co-existent.
Quoting verses that affirm the divinity of Yeshua and the Spirit is not the same as proving the Trinity. I believe in the Father. I believe in the Son — Yeshua, who is the Word that became flesh. And I believe in the Spirit of God that
proceeds from the Father (John 15:26). But believing in all three doesn't require accepting a doctrine coined 300 years after the resurrection and built by councils — not by Yeshua, not by the apostles.
And no — it’s not a “Protestant” thing to ask for proof from the Bible. It’s what Yeshua did:
“It is written…” —
not “it is council-approved.” (Matthew 4:4)
If the Trinity is true, it should be plainly taught by Yeshua and confirmed by His apostles. But it’s not. You had to explain it with
man-made theology to make it sound biblical.
So let me repeat this clearly:
⚠️ The Holy Spirit
proceeds from the Father — not from the Son (John 15:26).
⚠️ Yeshua said
“My Father is greater than I” (John 14:28).
⚠️ The Bible never calls the Holy Spirit or Yeshua “co-equal” with the Father.
⚠️ And Yeshua always pointed people
to the Father, not to a "triune God."
If you truly want to help a “stranger” understand God, you wouldn’t give them a doctrine that takes 20+ verses and historical councils to explain. You’d point to the simplicity of truth:
“This is eternal life: that they may know You, the only true God, and Yeshua the Messiah whom You sent.” (John 17:3, TLV)
One God — the Father.
One Mediator — Yeshua the Son.
One Spirit — sent by the Father.That’s not a mystery. That’s the written Word.
And I’ll always stand with what is written — not with man’s invention.
Just understand what the Trinity concept is actually portraying: it suggests that there are
three literal persons, each sitting on their own throne in heaven — this is
not biblical.
The
Holy Spirit is exactly what the Bible says — the
Spirit of the Father, which
proceeds from Him (John 15:26). The Holy Spirit is not a separate "person" sitting on a throne handing out the Spirit. That’s how the
Trinitarian view often paints it — almost like a triad of gods, which mirrors
pagan theology, not the Bible.
Did you ever notice in the Book of Revelation that there are
seven spirits before the throne of the Father (Revelation 1:4, 4:5)? That alone should tell you that the Holy Spirit is
not a singular individual "person" like the Trinity doctrine claims.
The Holy Spirit is the
power,
presence, and
voice of the Father — not a separate divine being with a will of His own apart from the Father. That idea is
absurd and has
no true foundation in Scripture. This is exactly why the traditional
Trinitarian concept is flawed — both in
Catholic and most
Protestant teachings. It simply
does not align with what is written, especially when you dive into the
Hebrew and Greek meanings of the words used when referring to the
Father’s Spirit.
If you're genuinely open — though I doubt you are — I found a video that explains this perfectly. It aligns 100% with Scripture and matches exactly how I see and believe it. It’s not opinion-based — it’s
biblically grounded, and in my view, one of the most accurate explanations of how the Spirit of the Father works, apart from the false traditions of men.
