The Misunderstanding

Originally posted by ppm56: ↑

@ppm56 — You were asked a simple and sincere question:
“Can you show the Trinity from Scripture — not from your Church, not from councils, not from tradition — but from the Bible alone?”

Let me be clear: I am not asking whether you or the RCC believe in the Trinity. I asked for the biblical foundation — in your own words, from your own study — not regurgitated commentary from RCC sources.

not regurgitated commentary from RCC sources.

Please TD DO NOT USE SUCH INSULTING REMARKS AS THIS, you’re starting to be a pest to say the least, read my lip, go first look at your own posting, it is you that is posting regurgitated commentary from protestant sources anti-Catholic at that too, no matter how much you say you are following the bible, the fact is that you are not, you are just repeating protestant theology there is no way around it
There is nowhere in scripture that says “only the bible must be used,” this is definitely a protestant tradition

My dear friend, you are starting to be very obnoxious person similar to the person that you have on ignore, let me state it to you again I gave you me personal take, furthermore who the hack are you to dictate to others what is posted or not, do I dictate to you what you post, even thou you are posting traditional Protestant theology and anti-cc bigotry , I gave you my personal take on the bible being a Trinitarian book, my own concept, just because you don’t agree it and put you on a larch it means it’s coming from CC sources
Like it or not the whole bible is a testimony of the Trinity, The Bible as a whole reflects the concept of the Trinity, OT -Father as the Creator, NT-on Jesus (the Redeemer), and Holy Spirit (the Sanctifier),through both its content and the way it presents the relationship among the three persons of the one God, signifies the Trinity

Throughout both the Old and New Testaments, there is a consistent affirmation of the oneness of God while also indicating a plurality within that oneness. For example, in Genesis 1:26, God says, “Let us make mankind in our image.” This plural language hints at a complexity within God's nature.

The Old Testament lays the groundwork for understanding the Trinity. Various passages refer to the Spirit of God (Genesis 1:2, Psalm 51:11) and the Word of the Lord, indicating distinct operations of God that would later be understood in the context of the Trinity.

In the New Testament, the concept of the Trinity is more explicitly stated. The Gospels present Jesus as the Son of God, affirming his divine nature through his teachings, miracles, death, and resurrection. Notably, passages like John 1:1-14, which states that "the Word was God" and "the Word became flesh," highlight the divinity of Christ.

The New Testament also provides a clear picture of the Holy Spirit’s role, emphasizing the Spirit’s work in the lives of believers, as seen in Acts and the letters of Paul. The Holy Spirit is described as a counsellor, comforter, and the one who sanctifies believers (Romans 8:9, 1 Corinthians 12:4-11).

Not to mention the relational dynamics among the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are illustrated throughout Scripture. For instance, the interactions in the Gospels, such as during Jesus' baptism (Matthew 3:16-17), depict a moment where all three persons are present and engaged in a singular divine mission, Jesus in the River, the Father speaking and the Holy Spirit as a Dove

The Bible presents a unified plan of salvation that involves all three persons of the Trinity working together to redeem humanity and establish God’s kingdom, as seen in the prophetic literature of the Old Testament and the apocalyptic vision in Revelation.

While term "Trinity" itself does not appear in the Bible, the Scriptures collectively present a framework that articulates the relational nature of God as one essence in three persons, each participating in the divine plan of creation, redemption, and sanctification.
The term was coined to make sure that people like you don’t mislead others with the lack of understanding of scripture down the cliff,
The Term “Trinity” was coined in reaction to Gnosticism, Docetism, Arianism, Marcionism, Ebionism, Alogoi and Adoptionism to say the least, all these undermined the traditional understanding of the eternal Sonship of Christ

Again, concept of the Trinity—representing the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as distinct persons within one divine essence—can be found throughout the Scriptures. Here are several key verses that reflect the Trinitarian understanding:
Matthew 28:19 (Great Commission)
2 Corinthians 13:14 (Paul's blessing)
John 1:1-14 (The Word was God)
John 14:16-17 (The Promise of the Holy Spirit)
Colossians 2:9 (Deity of Christ)
Hebrews 1:1-3 (Christ as the exact representation of God's nature)
1 Peter 1:2 (Salvation through the Trinity)

Verses like these and collectively highlight the distinct roles and unity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, which form the basis for the doctrine of the Trinity in the history of our salvation, you and me and all humanity
And that my Friend is all coming from scripture, the book of the bible itself is a testimony of it all, its not rocket science

PLEASE DON'T DICTATE WHAT SOURCES THAT I SHOULD USE, unless you yourself can back from the bible where it states "Only the Bible must be used" and no 2 Timothy 3:16-17 doesn't cut it either, as specific claim that "only the Bible" should be used for doctrine is typically derived from theological interpretation like Protestantism rather than explicit biblical text

All the above is biblical, and shock and horror my take

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"For example, in Genesis 1:26, God says, “Let us make mankind in our image.” This plural language hints at a complexity within God's nature."
This plural language hints at a complexity within God's nature.

The red here speaks the 100% TRUTH that the following is in play, and it's Not a hint, but a direct statement of truth.
2 Thes 2:10,11 - and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,

Considering the enormity of the Bible passages, showing the simple truth, the Bibles 2 Thes quote here, is the Only Plausible explanation, for such an extraordinary Creative claim, beyond imaginations.
Otherwise, you'd go insane, trying to get your head around, why/how some claim the know the Bible well, could come up with such a creation.

Good golly, I get sick of seeing this twisted lying delusion "us and our".

Psa 33:6,9 - By the word of Yehowah the heavens were made, And all the host of them by the breath of His mouth.
For He spoke, and it was; He commanded, and it stood fast.

Let us (the host) make mankind in our (the host) image.

Gen 1:27 - So God created man in His image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
So, why not in the Son's name at least, follow His lead and do what He did, and read the scriptures to find the Truth.
Matt 19:4 - And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’
If the Son in no way places Himself there, then why in His and the Fathers names, would anyone dare suggest otherwise????

100%, the Bible and not creators, 'ONLY' allows you to say that, one or more of the Hosts, were onlookers, while the God and Father alone and by Himself, made man.
Isa 44:24 - Thus says Yehowah, your Redeemer, And He who formed you from the womb: “I Yehowah, who makes all; Who stretches out the heavens all alone, Who spreads abroad the earth by Myself;
Goodness me, even a Child can see the screamingly obvious Here.
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"Matthew 28:19 (Great Commission)"
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
The translation of truth would be saying - Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Father = The One Holy Spirit.

CC's past history records, supported by at least 10 well known people, including Tertullian, stated that the "Father, Son and Holy Spirit sections, were added.
All ref numbers, Vol etc were quoted and copies shown and Lo-Behold when you check these references now, guess what, the above records have VANISHED, the big mystery, like the Trinity God apparently.

John 1:33 - I did not know Him, but He who sent me to baptize with water said to me, ‘Upon whom you see the Spirit descending, and remaining on Him, this is He who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.’
Matt 3:11 - I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

Clearly, water baptism, is of the past and if one didn't fall under Rev 19:12,13 , which in polite terms, 12 is saying most of you have NO idea of what the name in 13 is = Matt 7:22,23 being the results, as if you knew the name, you would know, no water Baptism is required anymore.
But if the temptation of tradition gets the better of you, then you need to do it in the name of the Son ONLY.
Goodness me, to swallow the Matt corruption, is to in effect say, that Peter gave the Son the finger and ignored the Son's instructions, despite being given the Keys to the Kingdom.
It doesn't take a Brain wave to think that one out.

There is only ONE Baptism, the laying on of what would now be deemed as satanic hands, in no way is part of Baptism and the water Baptism's that followed the short time after, would simply be a transitional phase.
The Hands physical past, become the Spiritual = LIGHTS ON, the Father and Son figuratively represent the CLOCK = Rev's Temple and guess what Clocks have = Hands John 10:28,29 - Big/L/Arm/Hand = The Word = Father and figuratively representing the Little/R/Arm/Hand The Word of God = The Son = 1 & 13hrs to 12hrs, Sion-Judah's Light over Zion-Israel

In other words, the Lamp fueled by the Glory/Word bellow = 1 the Father.

Water Baptism - afterbirth of the mother, be my guest, go for it.