I always prefer to hear from a broad range of views including so...

I always prefer to hear from a broad range of views including so called 'fringe dwellers',
I find if these are not standard HC downrampers, which @troyus and @Cashmeoutside are not, then it also beneficial to have extra opinions without the SH mentality. And they bring up some great points.
PF's dismissive viewpoints are quite childish IMO

Disclosure: not held, moving on, to revisit at later date