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Originally posted by alonso ↑

I am not Jewish but I do believe the Jews have a right to live in a secure Jewish state determined according to its historical boundaries prior to Islamic invasions.

Pick that to pieces as you wish.

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your ideas are false

if you knew anything about Christianity, you would understand all of the Letters Of Paul in the New Testament from Rome, Greece & Anatolia were addressed mainly to Jewish people living there

the majority of Jewish chose via their own free will to leave Judea prior to Christ

the next two hundred years, the number of Jews in Egypt kept growing, causing the Alexandrian philosopher Philo Judaeus to state early in the first century CE, with the exaggeration characteristic of the age, that they numbered one million. Sand, Shlomo. The Invention of the Jewish People (p. 145). Verso. Kindle Edition.

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Seleucids. Josephus mentions in his Antiquities of the Jews that the Seleucid king Antiochus III settled, in the provinces of Lydia and Phrygia, two thousand families of Jewish mercenaries from Babylonia. But how did large communities spring up also in Antioch and Damascus, and later in Ephesus, Salamis, Athens, Thessaloniki and Corinth in Europe? Here again there are no sources to enlighten us. Sand, Shlomo. The Invention of the Jewish People (p. 145). Verso. Kindle Edition.

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Already in 59 BCE the famous Roman orator Cicero complained about their numbers: “You know how numerous that crowd is, how great is its unanimity, and of what weight it is in the popular assemblies.” Sand, Shlomo. The Invention of the Jewish People (p. 145). Verso. Kindle Edition.

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The community in Rome was large, and there were also communities in other Italian cities. In short, before and after the fall of the Second Temple, there were Jewish believers all over the Roman Empire, as well as in the Parthian territory in the east, in numbers vastly exceeding those of the inhabitants of Judea. From North Africa to Armenia, from Persia to Rome, there were thriving Jewish communities, primarily in large cities but also in towns and even villages. Josephus, quoting Strabo, the Greek historian and geographer, wrote: “Now these Jews are already gotten into all cities; and it is hard to find a place in the habitable earth that hath not admitted this tribe [phylon] of men, and is not possessed by them.”37 Sand, Shlomo. The Invention of the Jewish People (pp. 145-146). Verso. Kindle Edition.

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in fact, when Jews were expelled from Spain with their Muslim Allies, many were invited to live in the Ottoman Empire however many also chose to live in Holland and other parts of Europe, particularly the New Jewish Homeland of Poland

Center of the Jewish world: 1505–1572

Poland became more tolerant just as the Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492, as well as from Austria, Hungary and Germany, thus stimulating Jewish immigration to the much more accessible Poland. Indeed, with the expulsion of the Jews from Spain, Poland became the recognized haven for exiles from Western Europe; and the resulting accession to the ranks of Polish Jewry made it the cultural and spiritual center of the Jewish people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Poland#Center_of_the_Jewish_world:_1505–1572

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plus they never originally came from Judea in the first place

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