re: the role of africa from scarva please read
I must admit that I do tend to jump into the war and racial dabate every now and than; this is from my heart and its a difficult position----I am originally from Northern Ireland and my family and myself have been affected by the so called 'Troubles 'there! Protestant by birth,my escape was to immigrate to Australia with my family when I was young. No matter how old you are you pick up the bits and pieces of the good and bad-my parents were never bigotted but there was that belief that was indoctrinated in them since birth--the young pick it up and that is that! It's like when my son say;s "Dad what does Gay mean'and I want to say" That pack of Queer, Dirty etc etc".Any how I would love to see World Peace and tolerance as that seems to be a nice thing to aspire or wish for! But we are in a world where I would hate to get too apathetic like a lot of Australian people{and worldwide also} and I read and learn and feel that its better to stick with what and who you know!Anyway my point is the following news clip. What do people from Belfast have to go to Africa for to sort things out when they kill each other everyday re political and age old religious reasons----I mean its not as if they are American and Iraqis; these people were spawned in streets next to each other by people they and their forefathers knew.In a nutshell we are all from tribes and Tribal Warfare has always existed---the Hippies will never change this nor will the gutless fencesitters.The Newsclip re Africa------- Protestants Pull Out Of Africa Talks. The loyal orders will not be represented at the talks
Members of the Protestant loyal orders and Protestant community workers have pulled out of a conflict resolution trip to South Africa. About 20 people were due to be taking part in the study visit early next month.
The trip, organised by the Parades Commission, is intended to promote dialogue between people involved in marching disputes and living in interface areas of Northern Ireland.
At the moment, it's just a very unsettling situation
David Hoey Apprentice Boys
Neither the Orange Order nor the Apprentice Boys were due to be officially represented, but individual members had agreed to attend.
However, most of the Protestants involved are now understood to have pulled out because of alleged security breaches at the Parades Commission.
The Apprentice Boys said it had been told by the police that the personal details of some of its representatives contained in commission documents had fallen into the hands of the IRA.
A commission spokesperson said the idea behind the study visit had been to promote dialogue, adding that if that did not happen, it would be a matter for regret.
The commission said it did not release minutes of its meetings to the government and has sought police advice and clarification about the alleged breaches of security.
Intelligence gathering
Last week the Apprentice Boys called for the Parades Commission to be suspended over the allegations that commission documents were found during the police investigation into suspected IRA spying.
Last year, the PSNI said it had broken up a major IRA intelligence gathering operation in Belfast.
In a statement, the loyal order body said internal Parades Commission documentation was "a significant common factor in the source of IRA information".
It accused the commission of being "completely compromised" and called for its suspension pending the outcome of the police investigation.
Spokesman David Hoey said the Apprentice Boys would not be taking part in further dialogue on the parades issue until it received a full explanation.
"At the moment, it's just a very unsettling situation," he said.
The government established the Parades Commission in 1998 to make decisions on whether controversial parades should be restricted.
Commission rulings restricting marches by the Protestant loyal orders, which are opposed by nationalist residents, have led to calls by unionist politicians for the body to be scrapped.
