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    "I now understand what you are trying to get at."

    "come to the true Christ spoken about and revealed throughout the Bible."

    What I'm getting at, is coming from one of your prior posts in the second sentence here, namely the True Christ revealed though out the Bible, some of which I covered and then you replied with the following;

    ""Why are you diverting me from the Truth?"

    Hence what I'm getting at as well and as I asked of you -> 'Show me FROM the Bible, where I am diverting you from the truth.'

    Now keep in mind your Important points in you second sentence above, then Look at what you say in the following, which to me clashes with it;
    "" It's just enough to: repent -> have living faith -> accept and receive the gift of Salvation -> receive the indwelling Holy Spirit -> good works -> die"

    To have faith, it is obviously pointless if you don't know the TRUTH of things in your second sentence above -> it would = faith in who and what?
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    "You reject the concept of the Holy Trinity"

    Absolutely as it is not -> " revealed throughout the Bible." -> which is a standard, you led me to believe you followed, as per the above.

    Tiny example -> John 17:3 This now is the eternal life that they should know You (Father) the ONLY TRUE God and whom you have sent, Jesus Christ.

    Jesus here unquestionably and independently of himself, references the Father Alone as the only True God when he was here.
    After the cross, exalted and glorified, he is now an only BEGOTTEN God John 1:18, confirming Jesus words in John 17:3 and his quote from the OT ->
    Hear, Israel! Yehowah our God Yehowah ONE is.
    Yehowshuwa -> Jesus is NOT Yehowah.

    1 Cor 8:6 - yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we

    "All things" -> Isa 44:24 - This is what Yehowah says, He who is your Redeemer, and the one who formed you from the womb: “I Yehowah (Father), am the maker of all things, Stretching out the heavens by Myself And spreading out the earth alone

    Why did the Father alone and by himself create;

    dia: through, on account of, because of
    Original Word: διά
    Part of Speech: Preposition
    Transliteration: dia
    Phonetic Spelling: (dee-ah')
    Definition: through, on account of, because of
    Usage: (a) gen: through, throughout, by the instrumentality of, (b) acc:
    through, on account of, by reason of, for the sake of, because of = the future Jesus to be, born from Mary.

    He is the firstborn of creation (in the mind and plans of the Father), BECAUSE in him (for this reason, the one to be) all things were created.
    Hence he is deemed as the firstborn because, the plans for and the act of other creations were after a plan for a Jesus to be in the future. (Col 1:15, 16).
    In the exact same context, he is the beginning of the creation of God Rev 3:14, ALL of our creations begin IN us.

    Col 1:18 - And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that in all things He may have the preeminence.
    So, he went from a plan to have preeminence, to now physically having it, Because he was the firstborn from the dead etc.
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    "only believe that there is only one God, God the Father"

    At the time Jesus was here, I believe what He believed and CLEARLY taught as do other Bible passages or writers and that is as per your words here.
    But as I said the Bible shows, after the cross glorified etc, he is now a BEGOTTEN God ruling for the Father until death no more, when he then hands the Kingdom to the Father and is then subject to him, SO THAT the God and Father maybe all in all.
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    "that His only begotten Son is not God"

    At the time he was here, he was not 'a' God.
    Jesus when accused of making out to be God, well and truly counted this claim by -> You say I blaspheme BECAUSE I say I am the Son of God = He rejects their claim outright.
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    "Holy Spirit is also not God."

    The Holy Spirit most definitely is God, the only true God and Father that Jesus references in John 17:3.
    The Holy Spirit fathered Jesus and he certainly doesn't have two Fathers.

    Paul in 1 & 2 Cor, us Temples, one account he shows the God (Father) dwelling in us and the other he says the Holy Spirit dwells in us.
    Paul interchanges the two as they are one in the same.
    NO WAY is Paul speaking of two persons being in one there.
    Those verses all tie in with the Spirit of Truth, Comforter, all will be taught by God who is Yehowah = Father.

    Where you see in the Spirit of truth and Comforter area, he and him etc, should in fact read like -> it, this, same etc. (check the Inter definitions).
    Ex -> It, this will teach you all things.

    John 14:10, Jesus credits the Father dwelling in him for the words coming out of him, now pay attention to the following;
    John 3:34 - For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for (because - Luke 4:18) God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

    The God and Father who is Spirit, the Holy, can give of Himself to whatever measure he so choses.
    The Bible is Very Clear, there is but One Spirit in this regard and all power comes from it, and we know that IS the Father.
    The Father doesn't instruct some created Holy Spirit person to go and do this or that.
    To Boot as the Father is Spirit, if you say he is not the Holy Spirit, you are saying that there is another being out there, more powerful than the Father eek.png
 
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