And for your second question....Perfectly good -- your only...

And for your second question....

Perfectly good -- your only rebuttal is "conspiracy theory"


http://wayback.archive-it.org/7993/20170723091811/https://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM111287.pdf

It means NOTHING if you don't understand it - which you probably don't

From the report, here is a table, the letters at the bottom in parenthesis "()" represent a code.
There were 4 different placebos used.
3 adjuvants
1 saline.

I'm showing it in yellow.

Am I typing slow enough?

So Study 018, aka Protocol 018, is done with Saline Placebo.
They do say so.



....and look, heres the bigger picture....

...and one more for good measure



It's all perfectly consistent.
No tricks.
No conspiracy.

Are you intentionally trying to conflate irrelevancies in an attempt to defend your religious dogma?
Or are you just "not getting it"?

According to you, the study wasn't supposed to exist at all, yet here it is!
That was your original request for "proof".

Regarding your conflation ...
The document presented contains the results a number of separate studies

Don't you get that at all ???

You can tell they are separate studies:
- they have different placebos
- they have different control groups
- they have different subject groups

The saline placebo clearly exists was one study among many.

Phased Trials for Gardasil - ALL Double Blind Placebo - for different demographics.

Korea https://ijgc.bmj.com/content/18/5/1013.abstract
Males https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa0909537
Other infections https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/196/10/1438/1075198
Pregnant women https://journals.lww.com/greenjournal/Fulltext/2009/12000/Pneumoamnion_and_Pregnancy_Loss_After.5.aspx
UK https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21645515.2016.1277846


And a whole bunch of tests done post licensure....a number of years after it was used -- confirming pre-licenusre Phased trial results.


Australia https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1473309910702255
Japan https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/cas.12106
US https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X10001878
Finland, 130,000+ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X18309253
600,000 doses https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X11013831

They are extensive,
They are thorough,
They aren't scare mongering by lawyers,
They are facts from medical researchers.

I can tear each of your "arguments" "a new one"...it's fun and easy.

Admit you are wrong on this one and I can educate you on all your other misinformation one argument at a time.

But you are clearly and unequivocally wrong.

Randomised double blind placebo controlled trials exist for vaccines..


A belief in conspiracy is not scientific proof