The unvaccinated risk LONG COVID if they survive.

Originally posted by kacy: ↑

"And all three of those doctors know that at the moment, of about 200 people in hospital with covid, 97per cent have had one or no jabs."

That could be because most of the jabs have happened recently and there are not so many people in Vic with two jabs. Also, being recently vaccinated gives more immunity than being vaccinated 3-6 months ago. Data from Israel shows that they are having more infections now than ever before and they have 90% vaccinated. So you cant rely on the vaccine to prevent infection.

So, what about Long-Covid? What is the risk of getting long covid after being infected - vaccinated or not? In the UK, 2.1% of the total population now has long-covid and are unable to work - and the rate is increasing despite 80% being vaccinated.

Long-Covid mostly affects middle-aged working people, so it is a big problem. They took a survey to find out the risk of getting long covid after getting infected and they estimate that a vaccinated person has about a 1 in 20 chance and an unvaccinated person has about a 1 in 10 chance (see link below). But they admit that most vaccinated people stopped using the monitoring app after being vaccinated - so the numbers could be the same. Data from Israel also shows that 11% of infected kids go on to get long-covid and all kids above 12 there are vaccinated. (see link in my previous post).

So we can assume that if we get covid (vaccinated or not) and take no treatments, we have approximately a 1 in 10 chance of getting long-covid. In the UK 40,000 people per day are being infected with covid. So that equates to 4,500 people per day getting long-covid, and its increasing.

In Australia we currently have 2,000 new covid cases per day and that's about to go through the roof when we open up in 2-3 weeks.So expect about 1,000 to 2,000 people per day in Australia to get long covid from next month onward. That's around 500,000 per year!.So, if you don't want to be one of them tell Brad Hazard and Dan Andrews to stop banning effective treatments because the vaccines work stop long-covid.https://www.healthline.com/health-news/people-who-were-vaccinated-and-got-covid-19-were-half-as-likely-to-have-long-term-symptoms

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Good points here kacy especially the israeli situation. It will be very interesting to see the hospital admissions increase because they have to but I expect numberts on a pro rata basis to be lower. Obvioulsy factors such as vax rates and temperature play a part. According to a wise, old dux of his year medical practitioner, he believes there are one million people walking around who are asymptomatic covid people. Lets wait to see who wise he really is in six months time. My initial point was based on the current data of admissions of people with covid. You have updated me on the long covid situation and what a future problem that will be. I am guessing long covid affects every age group such that a person in their 30's will suffer for longer time frames than a person in their 70's if they both tap out at 81.5 which is close to the average. The social, environmental, personal, employment issues would be far more impactful a 20 to 50 year old rather than on a 70 year old so thanks for pointing this out and we will no doubt be inundated with all the numerical data from the media.

The buck stops with the federal health guys as to whether treatment options can be implemented, not Danny or Hazard. A memo from Canberra was sent out to all prescribing and dispensing practitioners in 2020 basically banning any doctor from prescribing such unless it was for the intended purpose as approved in the past. We all know that. I have read and heard some of the wonderful success stories in parts of the world with these drugs, and non drugs used in combination. The one that sticks in my mind was the american doctor who discharged himself from a hospital, probably the one he worked at, and flew himself to another state and lived. Previous to arriving at the treating doctors hospital, i believe his lung capacity was in the low teens meaning he was going to die. He didn't. Plenty of others didn't as well. You would no doubt be aware that Pfizer is currently doing a trial of a Covid tablet formulation.

So thanks for your timely and informative update kacy. We will chat further no doubt.