no I try to withhold judgement of individuals asa we are all a product of genetics, social influences and the environment, values and habits of the world where we exist. and the people we see in the town camps etc are the product of those influences.
once the grog or whatever intoxicant kicks in is goodnight for free will, the capacity for clear-headed decision making. the 18/19Cs are present in Alice today.
and until recently, every offer by the white politicians has been unfulfilled..... until Rudd made the apology. btw, no kudos for Rudd in doing this, it was just business for him. no wonder they feel tricked, lied to, and kicked down the road like a rock on a dusty street. they are fed up with being what they've become. nothin more than a hot political topic.
tarvold you've stuck well with this discussion and I see you aren't entirely closed in your thinking, else you wouldn't continue as you have. What is your real objection to the V?
