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Originally posted by gumUnderfoot: ↑

He could not make it any more clear than to call Himself the, Son of God

Can't dispute that.
Whose mouth did that come out of?

⁴But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but byevery wordthat proceedeth out ofthe mouth of God.

These are subtleties. Jesus wasn't going to admit he was God the Son because that is why he was going to be crucified. Blaspheme!

“We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

It's in the narrative.

I tend to think that it became very important when presenting to Constantine that Jesus should be seen as preeminent over all other religious founders.

That may be or may be not so. But trinity concept is within the narrative. As trinity concept goes.

The Council at Nicaea were always going to deify Jesus

You, yourself call him Son of God so respectively you have deified him.

The truth was that Jesus is no greater than Moses, or Noah, or Muhammad for that matter, etc.

That's not biblical truth.

Jesus and John the Baptist clearly dispute your truth.

Jesus said: Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

John the Baptist said: John answered them all, “I baptize you with water. But one who is more powerful than I will come, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

The trinity is from the biblical narrative not what someone wants to presume as truth.

As for the Biblical God narrated,

That's exactly what we are talking about.
Those two verses up top give grounds for the trinity concept for the concept that is is.
Nobody can dispute that in the narrative. It's clearly there.

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"These are subtleties. Jesus wasn't going to admit he was God the Son because that is why he was going to be crucified. Blaspheme!"

He did admit that he was God the Son, because that would be lying and confirmed by the Spirit of Truth and Jesus.
This now is the eternal life, that they should know YOU (Father) the ONLY TRUE God and whom you have sent, Jesus Christ = The Son of God, The 2nd Adam Man.

“We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

And the Spirit of truth and Jesus's counter to their delusions and YOURS.
Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
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"I tend to think that it became very important when presenting to Constantine that Jesus should be seen as preeminent over all other religious founders."
"That may be or may be not so. But trinity concept is within the narrative. As trinity concept goes."
He was raised from the dead SO THAT he would hold precedence in all things. (Do your homework.)
Had he failed his mission, he would not.
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"John the Baptist said: John answered them all, “I baptize you with water. But one who is more powerful than I will come, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire."
This should get your head in a spin, show a verse where Jesus Baptized like the above?
Show verse where it shows Jesus himself even Baptized anyone.
The answers on this one, are in the Bible, but for you, they will know doubt be hidden manna = the word of God.
Keep in mind, that there is but ONE Baptism.
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