You do wonder sometimes how much optimism runs in the addage...

You do wonder sometimes how much optimism runs in the addage 2+2=5

So considering Hanlong now have this fiasco on their hands, replacing the person in charge, training up the new guy in charge, plus investigating etc. So negotiations should be say a few months off if you are lucky? Or start off new if you are not?

I dont know about you, personally even a few days is alot these days. Given everything blowing up left right centre.

I would put a bet on the T/O falling over.