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    Shiller: House Prices Still Way Too High

    Henry Blodget|Feb. 23, 2009, 12:17 PM|

    Professor Robert Shiller stopped by TechTicker last week. Video above. Key points below.

    * House prices are still only halfway back down to fair value.
    * Prices don't usually stop at fair value.
    * Obama's plan won't turn house prices around.

    And here's the housing chart worth 1000 words, which is based on Prof. Shiller's data:



    http://www.businessinsider.com/shiller-house-prices-still-way-too-high-2009-2

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    Shiller: [U.S.] House Prices Still Way Too High
    Sunday, March 1st, 2009

    In an interview with TechTicker, Professor Robert Shiller author of Irrational Exuberance and co-producer of the Case/Shiller Home Price Index said U.S. house prices are still way to high.

    Shiller said this is the biggest housing bubble in world history and “we are entering a new era in some sense”.



    The graph above shows how far U.S. house prices have fallen to date.

    [U.S.] Home prices nationally are maybe a little past half way down to trend. The big question if they were coming back to trend we would expect to see them slow down and level off, but they are still overshooting

    This absence of a slow down coupled with the fact the world economy is entering a severe recession, if not a depression suggests house prices are likely to over correct and head down to levels seen during the great depression. If this is the case, then for the US the housing correction is less than half over. When asked if we could over correct, Shiller said “We haven’t seen big bubbles like this”

    “The high home prices we saw in the early 2000’s were, I believe a result of a bubble, so the idea we will be back there is not supported by any good economics that I see, and I believe these events are inherently sociological.”

  2. Rents in Shiller’s opinion was another indicator of the bubble.

    Amazing thing is rents didn’t really do much over this cycle, nothing at all like the home prices. So that’s another piece of evidence to suggest it really was a bubble. It was the evaluation of assets, rather than the earnings stream.

  3. As the following graph shows, this was also a phenomenon witnessed in Australia. House prices bubbled, while rents didn’t really do much but tracked inflation.



    » Shiller: House Prices Still Way Too High - The Business Insider, 23rd February 2009.

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    //In October, the Deputy Governor of the Reserve Bank of Australia, Ric Battellino tried to calm Australians with an update on household finances during the 7th ITSA Bankruptcy Congress. He told the conference that the Australian housing market is actually leading the US by three years and that our correction occurred in 2003. This he mentioned, along with the shortage of houses in Australia means theAustralian housing market will not follow the US market to the same degree”.

  4. Yet, days after this speech official RBA housing data showed Australia was experiencing the biggest housing falls in 30 years.//



    From the graph above, it is hard to see where we lead the US. Rather it suggests the US housing bubble popped in 2006 and our bubble popped in early 2008, some two years after the US.//


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