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    No, @wotsup, the misunderstanding lies with you - it is clear that Scripture has a pre-existent Jesus.
    The relevant verses have been posted many times.

    At least you didn't link the "I am" to the OT I AM, LOL.
    Actually, I did as Abraham was an OT character.
    “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” John 8:58,
    Your lack of understanding of the pre-existence of Jesus probably means that the significance of "before Abraham was born, I am" is beyond your comprehension.
    Hence, in the mind and plans of the God and Father, the Jesus to be was in effect, pre-slain in this plan = before Abraham was even thought of = Before Abraham I am = I was, according to the Inter.
    Please provide Bible verses to show that Jesus was only in the mind and plans of God at the beginning.
    He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men.
    The verse did not say in the beginning He was in the plans of God, Jesus was active in the beginning and not just in the plans of God.
    Who do you think He refers to?


 
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