I can only agree with you Dex. We had about 30 meters of the darn things along the fenceline to discourage intruders. They literally grew overnight here and required constant pruning. I battled them for a couple of years and finally had enough of the cuts scratches and loss of blood trying to maintain them. The last straw was when I was pruning them from the top of the fence and fell into them. Replaced them all with frangipanis and all I have to worry about now is the constant leaf fall.
