TIME TO CANCELL $400 BILLION AUKUS SUBS !!!

Originally posted by Scott th Ratbag ↑

"Unaligned, non-nuclear nations with small conventional forces are easily pushed around.". .. and we are certainly one which is on the border between the Pacific Island states and the United States. we may be a relatively wealthy country, more affluent than the Mighty US, but we have a small govt budget.

when we engage in such massively expensive deals such as AUKUS and transitioning to a low(er) emissions energy sector, particularly with one party wanting to spend many $bns on nuclear energy (which I support though not necessarily in line with Dud's thought bubble), surely our govts should be honest and tell us our national income, federal govt revenue, is too poor to afford these dreams and explain why we need to increase our taxes back to where they were before thought bubblers decided to cut taxes for voting (or ideological) reasons.

moreover, imo, AUKUS ties us into a contract that will extend to 50+ years. and very likely, if we're lucky, we'll only get a few nuke subs for the massive bill. we would be far better off investing half that money into drone tech instead of nuke subs. a swarm of underwater, on-water and air attack drones would be more effective at def3ence that subs designed fort attack mode.

you make excellent points squidd. the last para is especially important. from my reading they too want access to the US/UK interlocking technology. as far as I've read they don't want the subs.

on alliances, imo we might be better served doing deals with our local neighbours, Indonesia, Vietnam, India, Japan and the Pacific Islands + PNG.

great stimulating post squidd.

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I find it amazing that people like the idea or at least think that it's smart to go all in with America for the protection of Australia

one has to only look at the results of America crossing the Pacific --

WW2 - win. Yes, defeated Japan.

Korea - couldn't win. Draw

Vietnam - got their arsed kicked.

So to China - massively bigger than anything that has gone before.

Do we think that America would take on China? ----------- Seriously?

And moreso - do we think that America would win a war with China?

it is the most preposterous idea that having America on the side of Australia would protect Australia -- it is far far far far more likely that Australia would become a target BECAUSE of Americas military interest in Australia.

And in a war between China and America - what possible reason would China have for invading Australia????????

Why on earth if they are fighting the greatest military force on earth - would they commit a massive military force to invade and hold something like Australia???????

what's in Oz - some iron ore and some coal? ---- unless they want kangaroo meat for some kind of military grade jerky

it is a totally ridiculous idea.

And the even more preposterous concept - that America would in fact, come to Australia to save it ---------------- pfffffffffffffffffffffffffft

why would they? There would be only one reason - to sell weapons.

And if they are selling weapons which are used in fighting IN Australia -

then, one wouldn't want to be in Australia - one would be a refugee seeking haven somewhere safe - maybe Gaza or Russia

this whole idea is just plain crazy.