just so they can throw it down the toilet? The simple fact of the matter is that 2g dirt from UG is just not going to cut the mustard - Bronzewing has been raped and pillaged quite thouroughly, Ive spoken to geos who used to work there when newmont put it on care and mantenence who have confirmed that. Carnilya Hill is another matter - that's the cashcow worth chasing.