Thanks Rick I'll be looking at my charts in a different light now come Sunday. I know you've talked about herd validation lines in previous posts and I've thought I've understood what you were talking about. But now I think I really DO understand what and where I need to be looking for potential trades. This revelation will also help me cull the amount of lines I have on my chart. I can see now I only really need the ones relevant to the immediate price action, the others can be drawn as and when they are needed. Most definitely up for a skype session too once you're ready Cheers