Trump's 'ceasefire' proposal a TOTAL sell-out of the hundreds of thousands of brave Ukrainians who have died and suffered immensely.

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    Hopefully too surreal to be true! A TOTAL sell-out of the hundreds of thousands of brave Ukrainians who have died and suffered immensely for over 3 years of hell. Narscissistic Trump is akin to war criminal Putin imo.

    from TelegraphUK
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/04/11/ukraine-divide-berlin-russia-second-world-war/

    Trump envoy: Ukraine could be divided like Berlin after Second World War

    Proposal would require Zelensky to cede control of eastern areas under Russian control

    Ukraine could be divided like Berlin after the Second World War, Donald Trump’s envoy to the war-torn nation has said.

    Keith Kellogg suggested that Ukraine could be partitioned with a British and French-controlled zone in the west and Russian forces stationed in the east as part of a peace deal to bring the war to an end.

    “You could almost make it look like what happened with Berlin after the Second World War, when you had a Russian zone, a French zone, and a British zone, a US zone,” he told The Times, before clarifying that the US would not provide any ground troops under this scenario.

    The proposal would require Ukraine to cede control of its eastern territories, which are currently under Russian control.

    Volodymyr Zelensky has repeatedly voiced opposition to relinquishing land to Russia without Nato protection for its remaining territories.

    “Ukraine will never recognise territories that are occupied by Russia as Russian territory. For us, this will be temporary occupations,” he said in March, adding: “Our territories and our values are not for sale.”

    Russia is staunchly against any Nato protections for Ukraine, while the Trump administration has signalled its opposition to the country joining the military alliance.

    Lt Gen Kellogg, 80, suggested that an 18-mile buffer zone could be implemented along the war’s existing front lines.

    “You look at a map and you create, for lack of a better term, a demilitarised zone [DMZ]. Take both sides back up 15 kilometres each, that’s 18 miles,” he said.

    “And you have a... DMZ that you can monitor, and you’ve got this... no-fire zone.”

    “Now, are there going to be violations? Probably, because there always are,” he admitted. “But your ability to monitor that is easy.”

    Lt Gen Kellogg said that British and French forces would be deployed west of the Dnipro river, which bisects the country and flows through its capital, Kyiv.

    The river would provide a “major obstacle” between the different powers, he added, suggesting that it could become a line of demarcation between Ukraine’s eastern and western zones.

    Sir Keir Starmer and Emmanuel Macron said they are prepared to commit peacekeeping troops to Ukraine to guarantee its independence from future Russian invasions.

    ‘Plan for the worst case’

    Lt Gen Kellogg warned Britain and France that they could not count on Mr Trump’s support for their coalition, advising them to “plan for the worst case”.

    Although he insisted that his suggestion would “not be provocative at all” to Moscow, Sergei Lavrov, Russia’s foreign secretary, previously said the Kremlin would not allow troops from Nato countries into Ukraine “under any conditions”.

    On Friday, Steve Witkoff, another of Mr Trump’s special envoys, travelled to St Petersburg in Russia to meet with Vladimir Putin to discuss a ceasefire deal.

    He was pictured shaking Putin’s hand during the meeting, which the Kremlin said in a statement lasted for four hours while downplaying expectations of any “breakthroughs”.

    On Friday, Mr Trump expressed frustration with the Russian leader as Moscow continued to launch drones and missile strikes on Ukrainian cities.

    “Russia has to get moving. Too many people [are] dying, thousands a week, in a terrible and senseless war,” the US president wrote on social media.

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    1. Comment by Roger Thornhill.




      RT
      6 hrs ago

      Is this the best these muppets can come up with?!

      Germany was partitioned because it was the enemy! Ukraine is not the enemy, it is the victim in this war!





    2. Comment by John Parkin.




      JP
      7 hrs ago

      Idiot. Where is the USA’s concept of and commitment to freedom and democracy?


      • Reply by Mike Thomas.




        MT
        7 hrs ago

        They don’t have that commitment anymore.





    3. Comment by paul laing.




      pl
      7 hrs ago

      Clearly, at 80, General Kellogg is suffering from dementia if he thinks this idea will run. What planet is the old fool on?


      • Reply by David Eyke.




        DE
        5 hrs ago

        General Jack Keane should have been put in this role, not General Kellogg.





    4. Comment by Tanya Homecat.




      TH
      7 hrs ago

      ridiculous the russian gangsters are near to being defeated. europe step up fast and replace the americans. let the americans concentrate on the other set of gangsters china





    5. Comment by Phillip Wallace.




      PW
      3 hrs ago

      This analogy makes Ukraine sound like the aggressor and not the victim. Because that is how “Berlin” (ie, Germany) got divided up to start with.

      Evil.





    6. Comment by Ralph Hall.




      RH
      7 hrs ago

      Gen Cocopops and his President believe they can dictate to a country which has suffered indescribable hardship and deaths what is best for US and Russia and intolerable to Ukraine.

      US govt is living in a parallel universe and lost touch with reality

 
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