occam, beg to differ that Abbott is a good man but agree with what you say. We wait in hope.
bitzer, Abbott has said climate change is real, whether he truly belives it is another matter but he does have the DAP to deal with it. Only reason he proposes a DAP rather than ETS is that he knifed Turnbull over a ETS.
There is nothing new about PM's or Premiers getting dumped, it happens on both sides of politics at the state and federal level.
