I too have friends across the religious/political spectrum but admittedly have few less Muslim friends. As I said all along I have nothing against the average practitioner of the faith who quietly go about their business. It is the bad 'seeds' that is making life hell for the near majority because it paints them in a very inhumane light and rightly so for the death of consistently on going victims of other faiths including their own kind. Sri Lanka is a new reminder of the insidious nature of the bombing targeting the HOLIEST day of the Christian calendar! Figure that one out.
"my educated Muslim friends have told me that they are misrepresented everywhere. They never claim to be a religion of peace. They showed me the verses that are about violence in the Quran. Through my research I discovered that the Quran condones ‘just Wars’ or wars fought in self defence. Many of those verses are in reference to the idol worshipping Meccans that tried to wipe Mohammed and the first muslims out. God commanding the Muslims to fight back. Self defence. "
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Out of context? SO is the term 'Jihad' if you study the specifics of the personal nature of this "war" from within oneself. Suddenly it becomes a very ambiguous action when you give it a holy nature to justify the action claimed by Jihadists.
I don't condone the NZ shooting BUT the difference between both Islamic and right wing extremism inspired murdering is the context of religion. Objectively speaking I didn't see Tarrant once uttered in the name of Jesus or various scripture texts as he went about shooting innocent victims. The former is quoted directly whether out of context verbatim from Koran verses, no fake news there. Something is not right in any extremist justifications but throw in religion and this can drag on for centuries!
Try drawing a few cartoons and see how practitioners react? I see the evidence through actions not hypothetical theories. I am an end result balance view type of person.
"Ive been to Islamic countries. I’ve lived in one for some time. There’s good and bad everywhere. There’s difference everywhere. Not every Muslim country is like ISIS. Yes I wouldn’t live in Saudi cause they fund ISIS, Al qaeda and other terrorists and their treatment of women and minorities is appalling. Yet the US and Australia for that matter, turn a blind eye, still do business, no sanctions.
Turkey hosts Anzac commemorations. Honours Australian and New Zealand’s dead soldiers by maintaining their graves. Tolerates haka’s and Christian prayers and singing of hymns. They don’t need to do that at all but they do. yet recently Australians got all riled up because of a single Muslim prayer being uttered in public because they associate anything Muslim with Isis and terrorists..."
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You claim you have lived in Islamic country and is that in the bubble of an expat community? I am not comparing ISIS to your model Islamic country be it democratic or not. IMO you have a very naive view of what minorities live under in these part of the world.
Turkey is a secular open society but I see them as the last remaining Islamic country now moving towards its peers sadly. You really need to investigate a bit further on its agenda in the region of Syria, Kurdistan and Iraq. The agendas including the West to some point condone ISIS because of the multi faceted interest resting with each partner in the region. It is not clear cut. Are you telling me with face recognition technology from eagle eye drones/satellite, they cannot distinguish between a big log and oil tankers driving from ISIS control oil fields to Turkey? You have US supporting Kurds to fight ISIS but Turkish military is also bombing them. US/Turkey is at the same time 'fighting' ISIS and then Russians mixing in that volatile cocktails of agendas!
Lets get some balance of views here because hypothetically religion of peace on face value isn't that peaceful when verses are pulled out of context but repeated constantly can become fact. The resulting terrorism is a demonstration that some thing is not quite right with the religion of peace?
No hate mate since I am objectively observing the results based on justifications of a few. This "a few" is actually having a VERY LARGE support among the non violent support base in a geographical spread. Islamophobia is like insanity to use the expression popularly used to describe the analogy that repeat the same action expecting a different result?
Let's be clear I am not a PHON supporter nor with a view to specific ideology. In fact none of the 2 potential PM interest me but which is the lesser evil?
