ufos...again!, page-2496

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    The short answer - "with the God" is a logos/plan within the mind of God, while that is still in you, it is you = And God was the Word. (word order you have, is incorrect on the last sentence).
    (your words begin in you).
    The God mentioned last in the second sentence, now becomes the key subject, hence the last sentence begins with him (and God), the entire verse works in this paten.

    As you maybe aware, it's a much argued over verse.
    It's like the oppositions, Gottha moment and once they are gotten, there is zero chance of mind change LOL.

    In beginning was the Word and the Word was to, toward, with the God and God was the Word.
    This; was in beginning to, toward, with the God.

    The very fact of the word "this" which is the only Greek definition for their word, tells you that there is something there other than God, as in a plan = the mind, wisdom, plan of God and while that is still in you, it is you = And God was the Word.
    Have you heard the saying - your are your word, it's your spirit person expressed, God is Spirit and his words are also deemed as the Spirit of him John 6:63, the Fathers words that Jesus spoke.

    John 1:4 In him (Father) life was....= this is back to the inner words within him, which are Spirit and life and when expressed, they are the light of men.

    Jesus was raised in the word of God, by God Deu 18:18, he had it without measure, so when he expressed them out, he became the express image of God's Person. Heb 1:3 KJV, John 14:10.

    Part of that logos/plan is shown to have been expressed in John 1:3 and another gets expressed as shown in Luke, hence Jesus being made by the word (logos) and power of God, re from Mary.
    A bit like, let there be light, let there be a Jesus and he was good, so much so that he grew in favor with God Luke 2:52, that God was well pleased with him tongue.png

    So Jesus in effect is deemed as a Word of God, titled with "The" in front of, 'Word of God' Rev 19:13.
    And naturally, if your "of" something, you're not that something, as Most Christians claim Jesus is, they say he is the Word in 1:1 = rubbish.
    He is the results of God's expressed word - ex Isa 55:8-11.
    Rev 19:12 says, no one knows this name, it would appear that that means, that they have no idea what it means and represents?

    The words to, toward and with, are in the Greeks order of preference, for the definition of their word.
    When you layout the definitions of all three, it is very Clear that the message there in 1:1b, is Not speaking of another person or being, being with the God, as most claim.

    Where you see the word "this", most Bibles bias views add "He", to try and make it align with the false claim of it being Jesus.
    To do that, you would have to show that Jesus spoke creation into being = Not according to the clear Bible passages.

    The word "the" as in - In the beginning = does not belong, as it's outside of the Gens creation, the planning stages at best - mind of the God and Father.


    In short, the Bible message centers around word, words and the mind game begins, just like it did in Eden, nothing new under the sun, what was will be is a Bible quote and sure enough, it seems to be running true to this day.

    Sorry about the longwinded explanation wink.png


 
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