re: ponder this-un vote on fence, from the scotsma
Every minute in every sea- and airport of every country in the world there is the equivalent of a fence applied to those wishing to pass through - and nobody complains.
It is quite obvious that every sovereign country in the world has the right to check the people wishing to enter its borders. With regard to every country in the world, this is called "passport control". With regard to Israel it has come to be called "barriers", "walls", "fences", etc.
Every country in the world surrounds itself with a wall, and with control checkpoints. In every such checkpoint you will find people in uniforms, and in many places you will also find soldiers with firearms.
Every country in the world has a wall. The physical shape of the wall is a function of the purpose of the wall. When the purpose of the wall is to check tourists and innocent bystanders, the physical shape of the wall will be a modern, comfortable, air-conditioned terminal. When the purpose of the wall is to prevent the free passage of terrorists bearing arms and explosives, whose intention is the murder of innocent citizens without discrimination, the physical shape of the wall is 3%concrete, with watchtowers, etc. and 97% wire fencing.
No country in the world is faced with the relentless, intensive, andmind-numbing horror of the effects of terrorism to the degree that Israel is. Yet Israel is the only country in the world that has been told by an international court of justice that it does not have the right to close its borders and check people wishing to come in or pass through.
If the basic right of the Palestinian Arabs to move freely from place to place is being exploited by the Palestinian terror organizations to implement terrorist activities inside Israel, then Israel's natural basic right as a sovereign nation is to prevent the entry of such individuals - even at the cost of the construction of a wall/fence/barrier.
FACT: No international court of justice prosecuted Jordan for violating the basic human rights of the Palestinian Arabs by not allowing them free passage into Jordan - despite the fact that until 1967, all the West Bank territories were under Jordanian rule.
FACT: No international court of justice prosecuted Egypt for violating the basic human rights of the Palestinian Arabs living in Gaza by not allowing them free passage into Egypt - despite the fact that until 1967, the Gaza Strip was under Egyptian rule.
FACT: It is a fact, however, that virtually no suicide bombers have gained entry into Israel in areas where the wall/barrier has been constructed.
FACT: The Israeli High Court of Justice ruled that certain parts of the wall should be re-routed, but also that security considerations should be balanced against the needs of local residents.
FACT: The Palestinian Authority does not want the wall, because the wall reflects the concept of two countries for two people. The PA wants one binational state in which, based on demographic statistics, the Jews will very quickly become a minority, leading to the inevitable end of the State of Israel.