The problem is not exceeding expectations (these are so low that...

The problem is not exceeding expectations (these are so low that YOW is trading below liquidation value), it is finding a way to make a profit. At some point you have to stop losing money and start making money. There appears to be next to zero chance of this happening anytime soon.

If things were going well on the sales front do you think management would be keeping quiet about it? They have told us that they expect this qtr was going to be terrible and have said nothing more since Jan. No company in YOW situation would hold back any good news if they had any. The only question is how bad things have gone.