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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
regards
Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
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I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
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I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
Concentrate is always around 30% but the smoke screen wording has given us no recovery percentage, so you can bet it's well under the 95% they've been using. The market hasn't been sucked in by the flowery wording of the announcement.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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Hi LittleArt
Zenith (ZNC) is under-priced (absolutely and comparatively)
I agree with your conclusion that “the ZNC share price has dramatically underperformed the RTR price since the Earaheedy announcement and by a big margin”.
Isee that zenmammon and Feeenix73 have similar views, and to quote mining reporter Barry Fitzgerald from your Post #: 52695358,
" On a look-through basis,Zenith’s share price gain has been underdone. Compared with Rumble, its market cap should be up by some $58m or 20 cents a share. It’s actually up by $32m or11 cents a share. The implied discount for its share of the Earaheedy discovery is common stuff for junior partners generally, and may or may not be unwound as time passes."
I think:
·that makes ZNC a compelling buy ...
·especially as it’s a very exciting discovery, which the market (quite naturally at this very early stage) has not yet fully priced in.
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If ZNC wasn’t in the JV, I’d have bought RTR but I think ZNC is a better entry. I think the implied discount will be unwound, so I’ve bought a reasonable chunk of them, while continuing to hope that Rumble goes well too.
1. Great discovery
I described the discovery as “irresistibly high potential” in this Post #: 52658915 due to its sheer size, shallow depth, good grade and being in a great mining jurisdiction in W.A.I can’t do justice to its potential here; read both company’s announcements of 19 April instead.
However,here’s an extract relating to Chinook only, despite there being many kilometres of mineralised trend.The purple arrows and “Nice!” and “...only Chinook” comments were added by me in my Post #: 52658915.
The following images are important too because see my blue arrows pointing out how the faulting has uplifted the sequence, making it shallower there.Less overburden saves shifting costs, so improves value.
Early news flow likely
The project will provide good news flow because:
·Being at shallow depth and sandstone hosted, they’ll drill a lot of holes quickly;
·It’s in Rumble’s interests to get the project to BFS (Bankable Feasibility Study) ASAP since they’re carrying all of Zenith’s costs i.e. 100% of the project costs until then and so will be keen to revert to just paying for their 75%.
Corporate Action?
If the project unfolds as expected there’s a very good chance IMO that a significant base metals producer will acquire the asset, by takeover(s) or otherwise.If that occurs, any pricing anomalies between the 2 companies will disappear.
Relative Values
I expect further significant further increases in MC, as the project becomes derisked.Focus will come to not just the value of the entire project but inevitably also to the value of each percentage point of it - plus or minus any special considerations for each JV.
Zenith’s Free Carry (ZNC $6M to $7M asset -v- $6M to $7M cost to RTR)
This project demands a lot of drilling to demonstrate its talked about Tier 1 potential– especially with possible corporate predators watching.You don’t want to skimp on drilling, to suddenly find you’re the target of a hostile takeover bid but are unable to convince your shareholders that the fair and reasonable value of your stock would be way higher if only you’d drilled more.You have to act quickly after a large-scale discovery like this. Watching the buy orders in RTR in recent days, some corporates might already have pickedup a few.There were many multi-hundred thousand dollar bids.
At present, RTR has to pay 100% of the project costs until BFS in order to earn75%.BFS might cost, say $20M - $30M.Assuming for simplicity that it cost $24-28M, RTR would pay all of the drilling and other project costs up to then, while Zenith will be free carried. Using that example, that carry would notionally be worth +$6M to 7M to Zenith (~ 2.2c / share, based on 294.4M Zenith shares on issue) and -$6M to -$7M to Rumble.
Zenith’sRumble shares
Asat March 2021 (see their Investor Presentation), Zenith also had 3.8M Rumbleshares. At Rumble’s closing price of 55c on 23 April, they were worth$2.09M (or 0.7c / ZNC share) – better than a poke in the eye with a burntstick.
Share Price Implications for ZNC
Zenith, being free of the need to pay say $6M - $7M or so for its25% JV share of project costs up to BFS; and with possible cash flow from the sale of its RTR shares, will not have to dilute the value of its 25% share over further shares on issue until it does a cap raising perhaps for its other projects first. (It had $3.8M cash – plus the RTR shares - at 31 Dec 2020).
Other Projects
Each company has ‘other projects’ that could become significant.I’m not going to try and assess them here but if RTR is being attributed say 3 times the MC of Zenith (because its project interest here is 75% -v- Zenith’s 25%), it would nominally need to have 3 times the value of Zenith’s ‘other projects’ (and cash and other assets) to avoid adjustments for them in doing a MC comparison based off this project.I like the other projects of both companies BTW.
So ...?
Putting this in a table and with the above assumptions (which of course can be debated),its possible IMO to arrive at a current valuation (on a broadly comparable basis) for Zenith of~ 36c. This is 50% above where they closed on Friday. I think both companies will end up with much larger market caps when this Project is fully understood. Share prices will of course depend on SOI at the time.Expected less dilution for Zenith because of the carry referred to above and because Rumble is paying for its 75% anyway, should serve Zenith's share price well. That’s why I’m a Zenith buyer.
Prepared 25 Apr 2021
Rumble
Zenith
1 Project Interest
75% paying 100% until BFS
25% free-carried by RTR until BFS
2 Market Cap 23 Apr 2021
$292.7M @ 55c
$70.65M @ 24c
3 Zenith MC - notional 75:25 ratio this project
$97.56M (= 33.1c/share)
4 Zenith Free Carry
COST of $6M-$7M
Est. $6M-$7M (say +2.2c/share)
5 Zenith’s shares in RTR
N/A
~$2.1M (say +0.7c/share)
6 Cash - Dec 2020
$4.2M
$3.4M
7 Other Projects
Not assessed
Not assessed
8 Shares on Issue
532 M
(+ 26M unlisted options)
294.4M
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He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview
piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
Posted by bigdump
IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview
so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview
fark u 2 fool ramper
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview
diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
Posted by bendigo
Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview
Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
Post #486342 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview
all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
Posted by Dezneva
Post #486665 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview
Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
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Posted by Rocker
IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
Post #529215 - in reply to msg. #529204 - splitview
well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
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Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
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