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Hey @seb777Im not sure what time zone you are in Whether this is...

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    Hey @seb777

    Im not sure what time zone you are in
    Whether this is a late night quick approximation type of post and that you are being carried on hubris .
    What you are writting is pretty confusing ...

    at 8.05 Paul asks the rhetorial question
    " what if the Araxa niobium supply is turned off "

    https://hotcopper.com.au/data/attachments/6018/6018696-ec662d58796838c7716d5f9c879bff58.jpg



    I have listened to Noosa November 2023.
    about 10 times now ...

    My understanding from around the 8 minute mark in that presentation is

    April 2011 |- Japanese consortium paid 1.8 Billion US for 15% of CBMM for offtake ( no voting rights) in slide but reports are slightly higher
    at 1.95 B uS ..
    ttps://www.e-mj.com/news/latin-america/japan-korea-partnership-investing-195-billion-in-brazils-cbmm/

    September 6th 2011 - Chinese consortium paid 1.95 Billion US for 15% CBMM for offtake ( no voting rights) agrees with reports
    https://en.mercopress.com/2011/09/06/chinese-consortium-acquires-15-of-world-s-largest-niobium-producer-in-brazil

    What Paul did not explicitly say is
    3.9 billion at 30% suggest the whole of CBMM is 13 billion US in 2011
    the AUD to US conversion rate average was 1.03 for 2011 with a low around 0.95 so for ease of calc
    lets please agree that value of CBMM in 2011 was 13 billion AUD ...through put 66 kt

    the exact calculation or assumptions that Paul Savich uses to
    get to 30 Billion AUD as an estimate for 11/2024 of CBMM with through put of 100 kt is not known

    I could say that with the eroding AUD to US being $1.51 AUD to 1US .

    So in table form the valuations would look like this from the Presentation I have seen

    valuation USBillionthroughput Nbktskts/Bill ratioaud/USAUD valuation Bil
    1201113.0665.11.013
    2202319.71005.11.529.545

    Paul Is an Certified Accountant . He would have to have a basis and assumptions to pronounce that $ 30 billion number AUD in public .
    I think what he is saying is entirely plausible .

    Seb777
    Could you advise where do you get a "40 billion" Araxa valuation from for 2011 ? I would really like to use it if its true.
    What basis do you use to extrapolate to "80 billion AUD in 2024 ?
 
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