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07/08/24

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Originally posted by wafflehead: ↑

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The point is that we can not regress evolution back infinitely or you have a paradox. With Infinite regression you never arrive in the present. Is this not proof that something exists in an infinite state from which causation begins, from which evolution begins.

So God, whatever we call this thing must exist in an infinite state. This makes sense right?

Even this is a conundrum because nothing can come from absolute nothingness, even God can not compose without something also existing infinitely and if something is infinite, such as God, then it is timeless and unchanging so this thing, force, super state of consciousness, God, that exudes purpose and will has been causing / creating infinitely. That's why I mention Hindu cosmology from time to time because they do have this cyclic state, a universe that breaths out then breaths in over unimaginable cycles so that the universe is coming into being, goes out and then comes in again.This seems to be more attuned to an infinite state of God and all the substance that goes into forming universes. As for life and human consciousness, I think this rolls through the cycles until we reach some kind of zenith and then the system reboots and we debate God and evolution all over again.Yes, I don't blame you for sitting on fences or tossing stones over them, these are confounding realities that cruelly we have an inner drive to understand without ever being given the gift of empirical information. So it is speculate within the bounds of proven science, logic and reason or not, sit on the fence or give yourself over to a religious fantasy.

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The point is that we can not regress evolution back infinitely or you have a paradox. With Infinite regression you never arrive in the present. Is this not proof that something exists in an infinite state from which causation begins, from which evolution begins.
How do you conclude that without a God / Creator we would be in the impossible position of an infinite regression?

By the do you believe that God came from nothing
I'll try to get back to the rest of your points when I can.
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