you may be correct ..... but more likely John Borshoff was referring to MEY at around 19.08 when he said ....
.... I’ve got companies approaching me now saying “look can we do something together ..... and I know why that is..”
have a good close listen from 19.08 ....
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wsgwYBrEdAU
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