what if jesus did not die on the cross?, page-36

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    Why can't I resist? Ignorance and deception are like a magnet for me I guess.

    Yes Jesus died on the cross.

    http://www.gotquestions.org/blood-water-Jesus.html

    "Question: "Why did blood and water come out of Jesus' side when He was pierced?"

    Answer: The Roman flogging or scourging that Jesus endured prior to being crucified normally consisted of 39 lashes, but could have been more (Mark 15:15; John 19:1). The whip that was used, called a flagrum, consisted of braided leather thongs with metal balls and pieces of sharp bone woven into or intertwined with the braids. The balls added weight to the whip, causing deep bruising and contusions as the victim was struck. The pieces of bone served to cut into the flesh. As the beating continued, the resulting cuts were so severe that the skeletal muscles, underlying veins, sinews, and bowels of victims were exposed. This beating was so severe that at times victims would not survive it in order to go on to be crucified.

    Those who were flogged would often go into hypovolemic shock, a term that refers to low blood volume. In other words, the person would have lost so much blood he would go into shock. The results of this would be

    1) The heart would race to pump blood that was not there.

    2) The victim would collapse or faint due to low blood pressure.

    3) The kidneys would shut down to preserve body fluids.

    4) The person would experience extreme thirst as the body desired to replenish lost fluids.

    There is evidence from Scripture that Jesus experienced hypovolemic shock as a result of being flogged. As Jesus carried His own cross to Golgotha (John 19:17), He collapsed, and a man named Simon was forced to either carry the cross or help Jesus carry the cross the rest of way to the hill (Matthew 27:32–33; Mark 15:21–22; Luke 23:26). This collapse indicates Jesus had low blood pressure. Another indicator that Jesus suffered from hypovolemic shock was that He declared He was thirsty as He hung on the cross (John 19:28), indicating His body’s desire to replenish fluids.

    Prior to death, the sustained rapid heartbeat caused by hypovolemic shock also causes fluid to gather in the sack around the heart and around the lungs. This gathering of fluid in the membrane around the heart is called pericardial effusion, and the fluid gathering around the lungs is called pleural effusion. This explains why, after Jesus died and a Roman soldier thrust a spear through Jesus’ side (probably His right side, piercing both the lungs and the heart), blood and water came from His side just as John recorded in his Gospel (John 19:34)."

    http://www.gotquestions.org/blood-water-Jesus.html

    "Details from the gospel accounts of Jesus' crucifixion match those found in secular writings. For example, A sign on which the condemned man's name and crime were displayed was placed above the man's head.9,11 The gospels describe Jesus' sign, which said, "Jesus the Nazarene, the King of the Jews."12 The religious leaders didn't like the sign and suggested it be change to "He said I am King of the Jews."13 By law, the victim was given a bitter drink of wine mixed with myrrh (gall),3,14 which is mentioned in the gospel accounts.15 The condemned man was either tied or nailed to the crossbar, with nailing being the preferred method of the Romans.3,9 The gospels describe Jesus being nailed to the cross.16 Roman soldiers could hasten death of crucifixion victims by breaking the legs below the knees.3,9 This technique was described for the two thieves who were crucified with Jesus.17 To make sure Jesus was dead, the soldiers took a spear and pierced His side.18 It seems likely most Roman soldiers were taught to thrust a spear through the right side of the chest through the lungs and heart - a fatal wound.9

    The idea that Jesus just swooned on the cross and didn't die is medically impossible. Death by crucifixion occurred through exhaustion asphyxia - the victim eventually suffocated.6 The position of the body on the cross left the chest muscles used for breathing in a permanent inhalation position. In order to exhale, the victim would have to actively push his body up against the nails holding his feet to the cross. If Jesus had passed out on the cross, He would have died within 10 minutes by suffocation.9 What does the Bible tells us that happened after Jesus "swooned?" The Bible says that after Jesus had died, Joseph of Arimathea walked from Golgotha to the Praetorium to ask Pontius Pilate for the body of Jesus.19 Pilate was surprised that Jesus was dead already, so he sent a messenger to Golgotha to summon the centurion for questioning.20 After the centurion arrived, Pilate determined that Jesus was dead and allowed Joseph to take the body.20 The distance from the Praetorium to Golgotha was 1/3 mile.6 The necessary trips include:
    Joseph Golgotha to Praetorium 0.33
    Messenger from Praetorium to Golgotha 0.33
    Centurion from Golgotha to Praetorium 0.33
    Joseph from Praetorium to Golgotha 0.33
    Total 1.33

    Even at the rapid pace of 5 mph (a very brisk walk indeed!) it would require a minimum of 16 minutes to complete all the trips. This time does not include any waiting time, which is unrealistic. Joseph would have had to wait for Pilate to be summoned, Pilate would have to wait and instruct the messenger, the messenger would have to convey the request to the centurion, and the centurion would have to report to Pilate and be questioned by him. Realistically, the entire scenario probably required over an hour. Jesus would have been dead well before that time if He had only swooned. The weight of historical evidence corroborating the gospel accounts of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ bear strong testimony of the accuracy of the New Testament texts. If the texts are accurate, there can be little doubt that Jesus was dead when taken down from the cross. The idea that He had just swooned is unrealistic. According to an article in the Journal of the American Medical Association:

    "Accordingly, interpretations based on the assumption that Jesus did not die on the cross appear to be at odds with modern medical knowledge."6
    "

 
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