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Originally posted by wotsup ↑

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Greater yes but that was while Jesus was on earth He did not say the Father was better than Him.
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Greater yes but that was while Jesus was on earth" ->
And the verses to support this claim ARE????????????

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He did not say the Father was better than Him.
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Great ->
of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above average:

of ability, quality, or eminence considerably above average:

John 5:19 -Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
(No verse says this was only during his flesh days, his only ever days as a 2nd Adam man, one nature like the 1st Adam).

It was the God and Father performing the miracles through Jesus Acts 2:22
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I Yehowah, that is My name; And My glory I will not give to another, Nor My praise to carved images.

Now the whole truth in the next verse;
Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.
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"[COLOR=rgb(33,33,33)]Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was."
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Lets us deal with this corrupted version with the Bible, to show it's TRUE meaning, which the uncorrupted will support.

2 Tim 1:9 - Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

Now let see what these people could ask the Father for, just as Jesus did -> Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

No one can rightfully deny that they couldn't ask this and it be fitting, and yet they like Jesus, were not literally there with the Father.

Interlinear -> And now glorify Me You, Father, with yourself with glory insofar held before THE WORD existed, WITH You.
(God see things not yet done and though they are done, complete, hence the glory He alone held).

So, the truth here clearly shows, if you mess with the Greek order of words as most Bibles have done, you end up with a corrupted interpretation of a verse, all in the desperate aim to support the false claim of, a literal pre-existing Jesus.

It was the Glory before the world existed, that was with God, not Jesus.

But never the less the 2 Tim 1:9, still nails the corrupted version and puts to true context, into perspective.
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