What is God's Kingdom?

Originally posted by ppm56 ↑

My impression is that the RC regards Revelations as something no ordinary sane person should ever try to understand literally.
That was not and still is not it's purpose.
Hence the preoccupation by "end of days evangelists" is at best misguided but in any case pointless.
Perhaps @ppm56 could also give his more learned view.

Hi Copper, I really don’t want to bite into this as most post is nothing more then what the poster has between their ear, nothing more, it was noticed long time ago in the 1400’s way before the reformation, people started reading the bible and their personal take started to take hold, we see that at the reformation each had their pet understanding which was introduced into their own church from which the bible and theology was manipulated to fit into.
Classical example is the watchtower everything is centered around 1914, 1914 is quite handy as that’s the time line Russell lived, it’s a weakness of humanity that we see that the universe revolves around ourselves and our understanding.

Rev 6, horseman is mainly centered around the elements of social upheaval concerning the prosecution of God’s people, followed by symbolic cosmic upheaval.

6:1–16:21 A series of seven disasters now begins as each seal is broken (Rev 6:1–8:1), followed by a similar series as seven trumpets sound (Rev 8:2–11:19) and as seven angels pour bowls on the earth causing plagues (Rev 15:1–16:21). These gloomy sequences are interrupted by longer or shorter scenes suggesting the triumph of God and his witnesses (e.g., Rev 7; 10; 11; 12; 13; 14).

6:1–17 This chapter provides a symbolic description of the contents of the sealed scroll. The breaking of the first four seals reveals four riders. The first rider (of a white horse) is a conquering power (Rev 6:1–2), the second (red horse) a symbol of bloody war (Rev 6:3–4), the third (black horse) a symbol of famine (Rev 6:5–6), the fourth (pale green horse) a symbol of Death himself, accompanied by Hades (the netherworld) as his page (Rev 6:7–8). Rev 6:8b summarizes the role of all four riders. The breaking of the fifth seal reveals Christian martyrs in an attitude of sacrifice as blood poured out at the foot of an altar begging God for vindication, which will come only when their quota is filled; but they are given a white robe symbolic of victory (Rev 6:9–11). The breaking of the sixth seal reveals typical apocalyptic signs in the sky and the sheer terror of all people at the imminent divine judgment (Rev 6:12–17).

6:1–8 The imagery is adapted from Zec 1:8–10; 6:1–8.

6:2 White horse…bow: this may perhaps allude specifically to the Parthians on the eastern border of the Roman empire. Expert in the use of the bow, they constantly harassed the Romans and won a major victory in A.D. 62; see note on Rev 9:13–21. But the Old Testament imagery typifies the history of oppression of God’s people at all times.

6:4 Huge sword: this is a symbol of war and violence; cf. Ez 21:14–17.

6:5 Black horse: this is a symbol of famine, the usual accompaniment of war in antiquity; cf. Lv 26:26; Ez 4:12–13. The scale is a symbol of shortage of food with a corresponding rise in price.

6:6 A day’s pay: literally, “a denarius,” a Roman silver coin that constitutes a day’s wage in Mt 20:2. Because of the famine, food was rationed and sold at an exorbitant price. A liter of flour was considered a day’s ration in the Greek historians Herodotus and Diogenes Laertius. Barley: food of the poor (Jn 6:9, 13; cf. 2 Kgs 7:1, 16, 18); it was also used to feed animals; cf. 1 Kgs 5:8. Do not damage: the olive and the vine are to be used more sparingly in time of famine.

6:8 Pale green: symbol of death and decay; cf. Ez 14:21.

6:9 The altar: this altar corresponds to the altar of holocausts in the temple in Jerusalem; see also Rev 11:1. Because of the witness…word of God: literally, “because of the word of God and the witness they had borne.”

6:10 Holy and true master: Old Testament usage as well as the context indicates that this is addressed to God rather than to Christ.

6:12–14 Symbolic rather than literal description of the cosmic upheavals attending the day of the Lord when the martyrs’ prayer for vindication (Rev 6:10) would be answered; cf. Am 8:8–9; Is 34:4; 50:3; Jl 2:10; 3:3–4; Mt 24:4–36; Mk 13:5–37; Lk 21:8–36.

6:12 Dark sackcloth: for mourning, sackcloth was made from the skin of a black goat.

6:13 Unripe figs: literally, “summer (or winter) fruit.”

6:14 Was divided: literally, “was split,” like a broken papyrus roll torn in two, each half then curling up to form a roll on either side.

6:15 Nobles: literally, “courtiers,” “grandees.” Military officers: literally, “commanders of 1,000 men,” used in Josephus and other Greek authors as the equivalent of the Roman tribunus militum. The listing of various ranks of society represents the universality of terror at the impending doom.

6:17 Their: this reading is attested in the best manuscripts, but the vast majority read “his” in reference to the wrath of the Lamb in the preceding verse.

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Thanks for responding ppm.

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