mpcharles, you're talking from what you don't know. I walked with the aid of a walking stick for three years and I know what a back pain is and I know what Thermalife does. I can see you are an ignorant that does not hold anything in this company and obviously doesn't expect anything to happen here, so why waisting your time reading PNO's posts? you are going straight into my ignore list.
Hope you never get pain on your lower back...
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