HI Dick philps try this i am down 600k on gbg so i dont have a choice but sdl does look like it might make it so i jumped ship with my fingers crossed, take a read of some of the posts on them, i feel a better chance here than gbg.GBG needs another billion to fix the mess and your share holding will be close to 0 cheers and good luck which ever way you go as we all need itwith this lot???