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28/04/24
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Originally posted by marcmarcoz
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I was thinking the same thing previously but I was more going by the trolls agreeing with you where they pick on a negative and utilize that for their own agenda constantly repeat and get more to agree before the revolt etc etc.
But being in sales and thinking about it a bit more it's a bit different where you sell a service discuss with the client, this is our product which is established and we have numerous clients and use them as a case study/referral/review etc etc what are your pain points this is how we can help, this is how we differentiate our selves from competitors etc. you follow up any questions? by the way lets discuss proposal etc, negotiate put pressure ie our pricing is going up next month if you go ahead now we will honor the pricing etc etc.
But dealing we are dealing with huge corporations like Mercedes and Ev manufactures it would be a cut throat industry and everything would be scrutinized regarding ADO from top to bottom.
Looking back I can see the EV companies testing this thoroughly and confirming our special sauce works that we can supply and have everything in place if we did get a deal how quickly could we scale up etc ( taking months and months). Any deal maker would find this difficult ( Are we really commercialised how can we guarantee this will work without thorough testing) until the confirmation from there team that everything is good to go and someone is willing to put their balls on the line we sit hear waiting.
I suspect there are multiple people working with these EV companies from Anteo and David as CEO/MD would be leading the charge - being the boss is a powerful resource when dealing with companies it shows respect as well as someone who is serious about their relationships ( whenever I have the owners with me its a powerful tool - the boss to boss discussion). Manuel of course would also be in the meetings I assume and they may have even Ewan wheeling and dealing sometimes he would surely be involved with some of the breakdown of the deal/strategy and the way to move forward.
With this type of large deal it would definitely be about testing/confirmation and milestones. They could potentially have come back with an MOU of sorts but I don't think many shareholders would be too happy with that we'd want the deal.
Dealmaker - looking back not sure that would really help we really have to prove the product - this first deal would be basically commercialising the product which is making it even that more difficult - Anteo X from lab to a Commercially rolled out product to someone like Mercedes it is definitely going to take some time.
Needing a deal maker I don't by for a minute now - we'd be paying a ton of money for that person to sit around twiddling his thumbs until something is proven/commercialised. Product has to be proven at scale, looking back the pilot plant is critical in getting any deal across it's proving we can produce a large quantity of product.
Until then we go through the motions of testing etc. Also I assume we are charging for any of our resources I assume something previously where we had collaborations in place for forever and a day stealing our knowledge or trying to find a roundabout way of reverse engineering our product / methods etc.
The forst deal is going to be the most difficult as someone has to take the gamble of a technology that is yet to be taken up by anyone will EV1 and 2 be the first. Once done I say bring one the deal maker.
At the moment fingers are crossed with David an ewan and the Anteo X team to prove we are the real deal.
Cheers
M.oz
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Well said Marcmocoz , I am sure EV1 , 2 and other partners are waiting patiently for the Anteox plant to confirm emphatically it can produce Anteo x at scale and on spec , no binding contracts will be signed until this is confirmand, what is encouraging is from 12 months ago the pilot plant has been increased in size from the initial 8,000 Litres PA to 20,000 litres PA to now to 80,000 Litres PA, there must be be a compelling reason for a 10 x expansion.