Why do the Trump supporters need to lie?

Originally posted by pintohoo: ↑

As to the word revolution - it's got a bad rap, that's true.

What I've been surprised to be living in with France is the idea of changing from this republic to a new republic.

In Oz it's like - if we said, oh, we need to ditch this system we've got and go to a republic

well, right there - there are aploleptic fits all around - even with pro republicans, it's a huge thing

for so so many French, if someone says, oh - it's time for a new republic -

no one faints, no one has a hissy, most say either - yep or, oh well, we could do that

it's an astounding difference - and it's not because the French don't care or emote, they are very capable of saying pffffffffffffffffffft. It's probably the most common sound in france from a human.

As to the USA and a revolution - I can't see that. I could see a coup. And I could see a new constitution.

What I certainly see - but, I don't know the timing - is the demise of American might. They will lose the economic race - it's when not if and more importantly - how they handle it.

I now believe that it's unstoppable - unless I've missed something (which is quite possible) - to me - the denting, the beginnings of the weakening of the petroldollar are well advanced - steady, but on the way.

If America does become more and more isolationist - which it does seem to be doing - doesn't matter which mob are in power - then their society is going to change because of that -------- medium term - those who get little returns in the boondocks - the trump territory, will probably get a boost - IF, the isolation can happen and overpower the other truly great force - automation and AI etc.

that's the biggie ----- America might say - oh, bugger buying from China - we ban it or we put on massive tariffs ----------- ok , fine

but, there is NO WAY that business are going to employ americans at 15 bucks and hour when they can get a robot at 50 cents an hour -

they forced massive change on america and americans by offshoring and paying some chinese person fifty cents an hour instead of an american maybe 5 to 7 bucks an hour - which is now a buck fifty china to about 15 bucks american

if they did that - they aren't going to worry about people if they have their own little robots at fifty cents and hour and they are more reliable, don't strike, don't take sickleave etc etc.

the times are a changin massively for all of us - the USA - well, they are going to drop from first to second - how they handle that is ????????

my guess is that they will become isolationist and their military will become way to costly to keep going as it has - and other places just won't pay the bucks for american made

smart government in america would go down the social path - make life truly better there - save on their military - because their military projects might and power - the more they cling to that - the less secure they will be and their military isn't about security ------- if it was, America would be a peaceful and safe place - it is not
their military is about defence and power - and is 'costing' them in security IMO

we shall see

Expand

@pintohoo - great analysis - I didn't want to go there and explore the AI route - it will happen - maybe we might - collectively - opt for a general wage for every human born on this planet? There is huge wealth around, but it is concentrated in the top 3 - 5 percent of humanity, this needs and will change. Will it happen without bloodshed? That's my worry!

I think it pays to check out what China is doing - but they have the advantage of a population which is disciplined and already used to 'commands from above' - used to totalitarianism, yet one cannot help admiring that Chinese governments have always got the welfare of their people in mind, even though a lot of the created wealth has been achieved by becoming the world's factory, and they are doing this very efficiently.

Yet the 'evil' of Western attitudes seems to be seeping into all corners of the world . . . . some of which, like the truly disgusting narcissism disguised as 'individualism' destroys people, creates dependencies on all kinds of nonsense including drugs, creates mental distress, loneliness - you name it - not everything 'from the West' is good - we need to remind ourselves of that; we need to tidy up our own house before criticising other 'ways of being'.

P.S. It is interesting to read your analysis of the French - I am just curious to see how their 'Assembly' is going to work, now consisting of two massive blocks, one artificially thrown together to combat the Right wing?! France and Europe have a massive problem with migrants, in particular to the cities, of people who seem unwilling to integrate. I believe Europe will have to legislate against Islam in some way. Rules is the only way to go to force assimilation - having said that, I am always amazed at the many good movie actors in French movies who were born in their former colonies in North Africa - the 'Maghreb'??

Enjoy your life over in Europe - I am supposed to take a trip this year to see friends and relatives in the U.K. Germany, Switzerland and Austria, have to do a fitness program every day, so I can manage this . . . still undecided, as I keep getting alarmist news as well.
Take care
Taurisk