As advised , here is a little insurer to insurer comparison with market darling QBE. ( my opinions only DYOR)
At the moment you can buy 4 1/2 shares to 1 with QBE
Genworth has been profitable for the last 2 years , QBE has not.
The total profit form both companies over this period is very similar
Over the last 2 years QBE has issued 66c in dividends
Genworth has not been trading 2 years but has issued 57c in dividends and is on track to issue 75c in dividends over its first 2 years.
As a direct comparison 1QBE share last 2 years = 66C 4.5 GMA shares $3.37 ( inc 2H est.)
Genworth is trading under its NTA , QBE is trading at almost 3 times NTA
QBE has a huge amount of Debt/ Genworth has a minimal amount.
QBE has 1.23 times APRA capital requirement Genworth 1.6
Price to Earnings QBE almost 20 / Genworth is under 7
The most important metric however is this. Based on the ratio of Earned Premium/Investment returns
Genworth is protected for the first 26% of loss ratio points , whereas QBE is only protected from a fraction of this <3%. This is a reoccurring position , it is not a one off. Every day , week , quarter , half yearly ,and Annual return with have this differential ( give or take small swings).
Genworth has no exposure to Asian Typhoons , the Florida Windy Season or man made Catastrophes. Its risk is to the health of the Australian Economy , its buffer is low interest rates , steady unemployment's, increasing house values and its trump card is Australian Law allows for claims losses to be pursued , which means nobody is locking their doors and walking away. Home owners will fight to keep their houses , which is good for Genworth. But wait there is more :) their other trump , is competitive mortgage markets and govt regulations allowing for mortgage changes , equals Genworth can book in profit well ahead of time ( I am not sure of their company policy for this)
GLTA - DYOR , DYOR
Column 1 Column 2 Column 3 Column 4 Column 5 0 QBE Genworth 1 Share Price $14.56 $3.18 2 Share Ratio 1.00 4.57 3 Debt to Equity 46.50% 2014 7% 4 77.80% 2013 5 Debt 3.58B 200m 6 EPS 75c 2014 33c 2014 7 minus 30c 2013 50c My Est 2015 8 Dividend Yield 3% 2014 8% 2014 9 3% 2013 >15% Myest2015 10 Dividend 37c 2014 26c 2014 11 33c 2013 40c+ Myest2015 12 Price/Earnings 19 x 2014 9 2014 13 Negative 2013 <7 Myest2015 14 Last 2 year Profit 500m 500m 15 Market Cap 20B 2.06B 16 NTA 7.25B 2.8B 17 NTA/Market Cap 360% 74% 18 APRA PCA/NTA 1.23x 1.64X 19 2015 Profit ? 280m-350m 20 Invs Portfolio 28B 4.1B 21 % of Earned Prem 200% 1000% 22 Loss ratio Protection by investment 2.58% 26% 23 24 Loan Cost p.a 297m 7m
Please feel free to let me know if any of this is wrong
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Open | High | Low | Value | Volume |
$5.02 | $5.18 | $5.00 | $4.024M | 786.2K |
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No. | Vol. | Price($) |
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2 | 1968 | $5.08 |
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$5.13 | 352 | 1 |
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2 | 1968 | 5.080 |
2 | 7755 | 5.050 |
2 | 26000 | 5.000 |
1 | 2500 | 4.960 |
1 | 2000 | 4.940 |
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5.130 | 352 | 1 |
5.150 | 2000 | 1 |
5.180 | 250 | 1 |
5.190 | 12000 | 2 |
5.200 | 1868 | 2 |
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