Lukeben! Its hard to offend me because I know how to pick winners..MSC is just one of them "Mr No Stock Held". I thought you learnt something from VIC. Followme suugests the following portfolios"VIL, SSN"...you see am no ramper mate. Better pick up MSC now mate...it does not pay trying to be different, this is share trading...Hope to note "stock held" in your next MSC post!