Will the Vic Libs learn from this?, page-8

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    There's some truth in that Kingpins but it's easier said than done . Showing political leadership in good times is something a trained monkey could manage. When the worm turns , as it has here ,it's very difficult to bring people along with you if they're not sold on the message ,no matter what part of the burden you share yourself . The problem for Abbott is that he appeared to lock himself himself into an untenable position when he didn't have to and has thus far been unable to talk his way into getting people to believe what needs to be done. I don't think they'd listen whatever he did himself

    For Napthine you've got no hope coming up against someone who says they stand for health ,education and progress when you say you stand for the same things but they really know that Andrews will just throw whatever it takes at it to keep people happy and Napthine won't.

    You can have great leaders in tough times ,like Churchill ,but in cases like that the people have the same cause through self preservation . They want to hear the message. It's very hard to sell a message that people have already closed their mind to .Sadly the major parties spend so much time trying to get themselves elected that it's then an uphill battle saying ,well we now need to do this . You get the juvenile jumping up and down 'but you said whatever',the press go off their faces ,the fringe parties have a field day.

    The worst thing that has ever happened in this country is the emergence of the Greens ,whose policies could never be implemented without totally disastrous effects on our well being , but who are able to shape public policy ,particularly when a leftist government has control.

    Look at Obama for evidence of someone who can talk the talk ,look like a leader ,but can't do anything. People though ,are happy to vote for someone lie that.

    It's a nice concept that we could have someone charismatic ,who could lead by example ,get people to believe in what needs to be done ,but in this day and age with so many fringe interest groups it just ain't gunna happen imo
 
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