Well, basically --------- the message is pretty much the same as...

Well, basically --------- the message is pretty much the same as it was hundreds of years ago -  and it still falls on deaf ears ----------- will we make it?  - each to their own opinion

''"Rather, the answer is something along the lines of a rejuvenated European social democracy or a new American Progressive Capitalism, a twenty-first century version of social democracy or of the Scandinavian welfare state," he writes.''

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08...m_campaign=abc_news_app&utm_content=other


this bloke had it nutted a long long long long time ago - Vauban