re: even the rampers bailing from lum Sorry goblins...all i have said is that i am disillusioned with LUM. You have interpreted my post that way but I diasagree with you. I do believe (now for all the dumb and dumber posts by Privacy) LUM is a company which has a future. Unfortunately that future is a lot further away than had hoped for. Still dont misquote me or read things which werent there Goblins.