I don’t know if they had talent at the start of there careers...

I don’t know if they had talent at the start of there careers back in the day Gibba , but they did have the balls to live and operate by there vision of what was right forces and learn the talent to stand by there conviction of doing the right thing by Oz and see it through no matter what the opposition origins laid , it’s a lesson that evolves in politics it’s not a god given talent, it’s earnt through respect of a politician’s convictions of getting the job done no matter what the consequences politically, now days in politics political leaders have no nads, they pussy foot around real issues like pussy cats in need of a pat from the minority’s, it’s absolutely mind numbing to witness imo since around 2017, and will be the end of Oz as we know it if politicians don’t start standing up for what’s right for Oz as a whole!!! And block out the minority’s, of which is 4% of the Australian population!!!!!