" If there were no children in mind marriage was pointless"
na mate - that's only religion (and only some of them) - take on marriage at 'some' points in history - the vast bulk of that was nothing to do with it.
Marriage was used and is used throughout history by different groups to suit their agenda - just like it's being now - nothing has changed in that.
and, the word 'traditional' -- is also manipulated by people - who pick a time in history where the 'tradition' suits what they are trying to do at the time - they neatly sidestep whatever it was in earlier times - or later times.
There can be an argument for stability of children in 'families' - but, then - it depends on the definition of 'family' - it all comes down to definitions and beliefs.
If we didn't have such beliefs of ' mum and dad in marriage (as we know it) - as the 'right' thing - then any kids waddling off to school with any loving parent or parents or gardians or whatever - whatever gender or however many - wouldn't have any problems with fitting in
the problems come not from - 'different' arrangements - the problems come from a narrow view of what is acceptable.
So - the easiest way to solve the problem is to kill off the limited 'acceptable' arrangements.
I think we have to realise that what we know as 'normal' was a normal that was defined by and large by power and control vested interest groups - who, we now know, are massive abusers -- and of children at that.
Why in the name of god would we want to continue a system invented by the biggest child abusers in history????
Those same people whose organisations went to war sprouting - 'in the name of God' --- yeah, yeah - ok, thanks for that
Look at the history -------- of all the groups that have held sway in the world throughout history - there are a couple of groups that we really should be well shot of --
1. Organised religious groups
2. Kings and Queens
Follow them throughout the history books and you get pages after pages of blood -
IMO, they should be given the respect they deserve ---------------------- NIL.
