When I attended that mining conference in may where JA presented...

When I attended that mining conference in may where JA presented IVR to a big audience all he did was confuse them with geology mumbo jumbo and I reported it on hot copper at the time it was the biggest negative and boring presentation I attended as is his announcements.

As it is said read them and weep or listen and be bored. so John i agree 100% with you .

Silver is up all the positive signs are there and we are going down in share price . something is clearly wrong and I think I saw it in may and John reaffirmed it in the release being what it is