IMO, we have to leave diplonacy to the diplomats just as we have...

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    IMO, we have to leave diplonacy to the diplomats just as we have to
    leave to leave economics to the economists and surgery to the surgeons
    and hope for the best.

    IMO this article below confirms that.

    https://johnmenadue.com/the-chinese-ambassador-and-our-ignorant-and-hostile-media/

    We recognise Taiwan as a part of China and if we want it to be otherwise, then
    the proper way to do that is to rise a motion in the UN that Taiwan is an independant
    country thereby reversing the UN decision of 50 years ago

    After all the UN is part of the US led Post-WW2 World Order which we like to Spruik...eh?.

    We simply have to look after Australia's domestic concerns first & foremost.
    40% of our trade is China dependant and before we threaten war against
    China's relationship with its own province of Taiwan, we should make our
    economy China-proof:

    IMO we should be:
    (a) Rapidly developing our own Australian owned downstream processing
    of out raw mineral exports to China thereby going around China to global
    markets with finishes and semi-finished products.
    (b) Seeking imports from Western aligned countries on a reciprocal trade basis
    (c) Using the profits from (a) to provide a proper defence sustem rather
    than relying on the USA who demands/will demand benefits by doing so

    At present we have a mob of self interested mugs who mouth anti-China
    slogans but dont have the guts or the money to do (a) , (b) & (c) above.
    To defend ourselves against an expected rise of China in our region we
    build a resilient Aus , both economically & militarily, rather than rely
    on China for our national "daily bread" while lambasting it form behind
    the coat tails of Uncle Sam.

    IMO if the chips were down, the US would use Aus as a sacrificial pawn
    if it meant an advantage for Uncle Sam in a US/China showdown.

    We ought in Galipoli and lost
    We fought in Europe and the US won
    We fought in Korea to a stalemate
    We fought in Iraq and lost
    We fought in Afghanisatn and lost.

    If we fight against China and loose, unlike the war
    losses above , we'll loose Australia, IMO.

    Even in a limited Taiwan War , how many million Taiwanese
    refugees are we willing to take or will it be like Afghanistan
    cherry-pick a few thousand and then leave the rest to their fate?

    We have been War loosers for over a Century and its time
    that we put Aus & Aus interests first whether that be militarily
    or economically because our long term sovereignty is dependant
    on our economic advancement, not on farming out our economic
    and military future to multinationals & the USA.

    China is only a global military threat because of its economic rise,
    not because of the CCP per se, IMO. Vietnam & Laos have
    Communist Systems but they are not a threat to the US post-WW2
    World Order....eh?

    Clue: We export the makings of 1 ton of steel for less than
    $400. Finished steel is worth $3500 FOB.

    We export 800 million tons of Iron Ore P/A; enough to produce nearly
    500 million tons of steel

    If we converted that 800 million Tons of IO into steel in Aus, it would mean
    lifting our GDP by $1.75 Trillion or nearly doubling our GDP.

    Even 10% o that would mean lifting out GDP by 10% right away,
    permitting us to partially diversify trade to the benefit of all Aussies.

    But can we do it?.......Na, just mouth war against China and have our
    economic teeth broken in the process!

    We are fretting about China being outside our house with guns in the
    future while we are ading and abetting the USA to parade outside China's house
    armed to the teeth. Can we see the irony here?


    Last edited by moorookamick: 12/08/22
 
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