Yes Redbacka .They've become impossible to trade as well with the get out time narrowing on each of the predictable bounces.
I'm not saying that I've given up because markets can do anything as we all know ,but the will to go in lessens as a few more do their dough trying to pick a bottom .
Noneteless there will be a time to get some real money out of them but obviously that time is not now ,or foreseeably
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