monako, I thought AVB have to try to give Xstrata the opportunity to maintain their 15% in future, not that Xstrata has to take it up. So the obligation is on AVB not Xstrata. If I'm right, then IF we have a pre-production CR and IF Xstrata do take up their entitlement, it will be further affirmation of their commitment to AVB. Lots of IFs for a scenario which may not even happen.