yes or no, page-21

"Saving face" is one of the most ridiculous sides of the Chinese, we are dealing with I assume adults, they want to play in the real world, play like the rest of us and take it (their decisions) like a man!

Hey, Baukaw, for once I can say I agree with you 100%, the current PM is living in cuckoo land with the rest of her chicks, like the Hanlong TO the sooner we see the end of them the better we will all be.

Bring on the takeover and the election!

Dtrad