And sure I can see you are a hopeful shareholders like many of...

And sure I can see you are a hopeful shareholders like many of us. Food for thought is the delivery of anode materials to Tesla is supposed to be now. They need to find money, mine graphite from Nachu, find place to build the factory in the us with c4v tech. Do they still look at each other face at c4v? Think of a chance of that chain of things to happen.

And why did they sign the deal 2 years ago knowing that it's impossible? The money is not made by producing a thing, it's the peak trading, don't forget that.